USA Trainer Shortage?

Discussion in 'USA Truck' started by impact5988, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. Jorihe84

    Jorihe84 Road Train Member

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    Trainers get all dispatched miles plus addl 45 a day. Absolutely no way a trainer gets just a flat $45 a day. That's 315 a week...
     
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  3. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    I don't think it's a shortage, I just think freight is slow durring the holiday.

    IIRC USA less than 10% of it's fleet training. They graduate a new class every week and you're out with a trainer for about 6 weeks (3 with one and 3 with a 2nd.) add to that location (where the trainers actually ARE on a Thursday) and it takes a while to rotate them in.

    I think my trainer's still working for them. So if you get E-man you're in luck.
     
  4. TRUCK3R M1KE

    TRUCK3R M1KE Light Load Member

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    Good attitude! Exactly what a good trainer wants to see. I trained a few drivers w/ Davis (flatbed).

    My first one struggled a bit at first, but 1/2 way through, he figured it out and we hauled ace for the rest. As a reward in week 3, we stopped in Vegas for the weekend and I rented mopeds for both os us and we cruised around, being total tools. Had a blast. He became an O/O eventually and we are still friends to this day, almost 7 years later.

    Second one was experienced and just needed to be observed for 2 weeks. Good guy, quick learner, wish they were all like that!

    The last one got kicked off the truck in week 4 for not following instructions/procedure. I warned Davis about his attitude and potential liability and advised them to send him home. They put him in a truck when the bus dropped him at the yard. I quit being a trainer when they did that. He quit, without notice, while under dispatch, a month later.

    I decided right there that I'll never train again. If my word as the trainer isn't considered "golden", I've no interest in doing it. Now I refuse to work for any company that accepts graduates/trainees.
     
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  5. impact5988

    impact5988 Bobtail Member

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    TRUCK3R M1KE, thanks for the input. Times have changed since I drove last. 15 years ago I went to work for Schneider right out of the military. Schneider spent some valuable time teaching me how to drive. I'm glad I retained most of it. When I did the refresher at C1 in N. Little Rock, I heard an instructor tell an inexperienced student that he wasn't there to teach him how to drive, only to pass the DMV test. I may be looking at this statement wrong, but wouldn't a truck driving school be there to teach an experienced driver how to safely drive? I saw a couple of young guys with 0 driving experience that thought they knew all that was needed to drive. That is the wrong attitude to enter this industry with, especially when you haven't obtained your CDL yet! This is unfortunately the only way for me to reenter the trucking industry.
     
  6. impact5988

    impact5988 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the input, Mike. This is unfortunately the only way I could see to get back in the industry. 15 years ago, a company put a lot of valuable time into teaching me how to drive before I ever went out with a trainer. I am glad I retained that knowledge. While going through my refresher, I overheard an instructor telling a student that he wasn't there to teach him how to drive, only to pass the DMV test. To me, that seems to be the wrong approach for a school. His futher statements included that the company trainer would teach the driving part. My thoughts are that a trainer is there to refine your skills, not teach from the ground up. Maybe I am looking at this wrong. Times have definitely changed in this industry. Thanks to everyone that has enlightened me on the training pay.
     
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  7. RetiredSarge

    RetiredSarge Medium Load Member

    The reason for the long wait these days is just recently in the last month or so they fired a bunch of trainers for not doing their job. Just sitting there collecting a pay check. They are trying to talk people into being trainers. This is from a trainer at USA. They are not putting up with useless trainers just trying to exploit a new hire and not teaching them a thing. Some students actually come out to learn something and when its not taught, sometimes its told to the training liason. Get enough calls and GOODBYE. Thats what happened
     
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  8. RetiredSarge

    RetiredSarge Medium Load Member

    And its only 2 and 2. not 3 and 3 for training. unless your trainer feels u need more time
     
  9. impact5988

    impact5988 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks, RetiredSarge. I had heard that scuttlebutt earlier, but didn't know if it was factual. Thank you for your service and Happy Independence Day! Semper Fi!
     
  10. TRUCK3R M1KE

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    If true, +1 Respect for USA Truck.
     
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  11. TRUCK3R M1KE

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    As much as it sounds like BS, and it does indeed, it's quite true. Think about it like this:

    There isn't a job in the world where 80-160 hours in the classroom (or even 4 years in college) puts you in a position to hit the ground running the minute you graduate. Everyone has to spend a varied amount of time learning about the job while doing the job. Cops, doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc all have to play "rookie" for some time.

    In the trucking industry, along with most other blue-collar "work" jobs, the initial training is fairly simple, because you aren't arguing federal court cases or reattaching limbs, and the majority of your training will occur while doing the job itself.

    If a student were to stay in school until he was ready to be a fully competent truck driver that could tackle the everyday, yet sometimes random, obstacles we face out here, they'd be in school for a year and it would cost $15,000.

    Like sanitation or welding or carpentry or plumbing, the only true way to learn this job is to get out and do it. Every mile is different. Every load is different. Every day is different. How to understand that and then cope with it is not something that can be taught. It's simply learned.

    /fascinatingly intelligent response
     
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