Very bad, Kenworth W9 T8 C5 discontinued

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  1. Cat sdp

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  3. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Economy is looking good….more workers outta a job, less revenue for a lot of manufacturers, so less jobs there too… it all makes a circle.
     
  4. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

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    This is all because of the phony “climate change” nonsense
     
  5. Long FLD

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    Heard a rumor that KW might be working on a redesign of the 990 to make it more appealing. Who knows if that’s true or not. Guess all the 389 people who said they’d buy a W9 instead of a 589 better get it done before time runs out.
     
  6. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    To be honest iin MY opinion its a list of reasons why kenny is killing them. First paccar has pissed away a LOT of good will with their MX trashpile of an engine. Many people who were rabid pete or kenny fanbois have been put off the brand. Especially considering the Ws Ts and Cs arent a hell of a lot more capible or reliable then the far cheaper plastic versions and arent any cheaper to run.

    They also get generally worse economy and are heavier which is a problem in both meeting EPA and CARB requirments. They are a fortune to fix or work on compared to the much more common plastic trucks which means insurance and maintaince tends to cost a bit more. And frankly many O/Os are either leaving the market or switching to cascadias, volvos and internationals due to how much cheaper and/or reliable they are.

    Then there is the fact many of these trucks are in serious need of an update across the board in styleing and creature comforts. As much as it pains me to admit. My lonestar is better in every way layout and comfort wise to my pete and far better then both the 379 and 389s i was eyeballing before i got it and just as good.

    Then as judge said we are coming down from the C19 boom and getting back to a more normal level with a good chance for a slump coming up due to the rampent inflation and such the last few years finally catching up.

    Combine all the above and it makes more sense to sunset the designs and try to offer what the market wants generally. Sure there are specific niches that those trucks filled. But they are just that. Niches. Id be suprised if those designs made up more then a fraction of their overall sold units.
     
  7. AModelCat

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    So I guess KW is done with trucks built for actual work.
     
  8. Long FLD

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    The MX wasn’t available in the W900L. It was in the W900B and the T800, not sure about the other models.
     
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  9. AModelCat

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    Seriously, emissions? Have these dip####s realized that aerodynamics mean jack #### when it comes to anything a C500 will be hauling?
     
  10. Long FLD

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    If they’re phasing out all the other narrow cab models it doesn’t make much sense to keep a production line running just to build the c500.
     
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  11. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    I mean you HAVE seen the rules carb and the EPA puts out right? When has logic or reason ever factored into stuff like that? Hell cali was wanting electric trucks to replace all trucks. That likely wouldnt go so well on range either....

    Im convinced most emissions lawmakers have never actully been closer to a truck then a drawing.
     
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