Or if I'm going to move again, I should lease or own or something. Then if I don't like it, I know I'm the one who's not a good boss.
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It's like this. Gordon has quite a reputation for firing drivers who don't live up to their expectations. They'll write you up for fairly small things. If I tell them I can't meet their schedule, they'll have me still try to run it, and just send a QualComm macro if I start to fall behind schedule (or rather, "when" I start to fall behind.) I can't just send the macro the moment I first get the load, because then I'd be ignoring the possibility that everything might go perfectly. (After all it's still technically "possible" that LA area traffic will be light at 8am.)
The problem with this is then I'm on record for late delivery. They've got lots of other drivers who wouldn't have been late. (You'll see those drivers passing you on the freeway when you're already going 5 mph over the limit.)
Basically, if I stay here, my record is screwed one way or the other. Either Gordon will have complaints to send to my next prospective employer, or the DOT will catch me trying to live up to Gordon's expectations.
It is a brilliant strategy on their part. Insidious, but brilliant. -
There's nothing brilliant about it. Every accident one of their trucks gets into is a potential multimillion Dollar lawsuit against the company. Every OOS violation is a strike against the company.
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Just a bit of advice: as temping as it is, never, ever give a reason for quitting. Giving a reason for quitting will never help you and will only hurt you.
They will ask. It will never do you any good to tell them. And it's very unlikely that it would do them any good.
And never let them talk you into staying after you decide to quit. Just walk away, after your two week notice of course, or whenever they want you to bring their truck back within that two weeks.8-j Thanks this. -
If you haven't ever been in business, don't even consider a lease purchase program. Most people don't make it to the end of the lease, lose the truck and ruin their credit. My advice is to switch companies to, say a dry van company like Crete or Heartland. You may want to try flat bed also like Boyd, TMC or Melton. I did the refrigerated thing for a year and hated it. I am now an owner-operator with my own flat bed and love it. The hours are much better and you aren't nearly as "rushed".
If you are determined to stay with your current company, take charge of the truck. You are the captain of the ship and you drive when you are comfortable with driving, at the speed you want to drive. Dispatch can make a lot of noise, but it isn't their license and lively hood on the line. If they keep harassing you, keep a log of all their threats and contact OOIDA. If they keep bugging you over the Qualcom, silence it and reply, courteously at your leisure. Don't let them run you ragged.
Be aware that if you lease purchase, they still "own" you. You pay the truck mortgage, pay the fuel, pay the insurance, but can't leave at your will. You can turn down a load, but then they get you back by not dispatching you. You will be broke with no where to go. You will be much better off by switching companies.starsonwindow Thanks this. -
These are all really good advices. I actually did submit my 2 weeks notice, and I actually did give them a reason (I told them I have a hard time sleeping when I'm on a tight dispatch). They offered me a position in dry van, telling me the dispatches would likely not be so tight because it's not perishable goods, and I have been seriously considering it.
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And don't fall for the "just tell me why unofficially" line. If they really wanted constructive criticism they would have asked for it before you quit.Last edited: Apr 12, 2013
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I'm glad I was careful in how I worded my response, then. They know I'm not mad at them. I'm really not.
If I were the kind of driver who speeds and snips my logs just get those few extra miles in a week, then this would be a perfect company for me. I'd get lots of miles, way more than I'm going to get running legal. I try to recognize when a company is trying to do right by its drivers. I think Gordon is a great company in that respect, and I want to treat it fairly back. It's just that its particular way of trying to do right by drivers doesn't work for me.
The big worry I have right now is, what if it turns out that all or most of the companies out there are all trying to run the way Gordon runs? I don't want to go to the next company and get the same kind of dispatches. I haven't seen enough of the industry to know how the others run. Maybe under-scheduling runs is the going business model these days?
I know for sure that if I lease-op with a company that allows me to choose my own freight that at least I'll have the power to dispatch myself on safe and legal runs. Maybe I won't make all the money I want to, but I'll be making it legally. -
I would point out that being your own dispatcher isn't a walk in the park, though. It takes a significant amount of time and effort, especially at first, until you get a good idea of freight patterns, good and bad areas, etc. But it's well worth it in my book, as long as you start out financially sound so that a couple bad weeks wouldn't be a problem.
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