Warm produce, from a cross-dock???

Discussion in 'Refrigerated Trucking Forum' started by gokiddogo, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    55....There ain't no telling when you pick up at the border they might of been sitting in a hot van no telling how hot they got. They don't always do things like us south of the border. Then Guirmo scratched his head figuring it being cold up here he could make it work and by the time he got here they would be close to right? Little did he figure it takes a couple days for a major temp adjustment.

    I've picked up banana's before that are very sensitive to be at 60 degrees. Yet you pulp them coming off the ship container and I've seen them as high as 70 degrees. I've seen containers unloaded that were out of fuel. It makes you wonder sometimes.

    But each fruit has it's own characteristics. Papaya's are pretty tough.
     
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  3. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Papaya's can be eaten not fully ripe.
    Thai papaya is shreded and made into a salad called som tom, Very spicy..
    But they can tell how under ripe or over ripe when unload. Hope all goes well for you.
    Did the driver say what temp they were when he loaded or never bothered to check temps?
    Good luck
     
  4. TheRoadWarrior

    TheRoadWarrior rocking-n-rollin again

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    44 degrees is the ideal temp. When at room temp they will ripen faster if on a dock in hot temp and not knowing for how long the fruit will ripen. Once they become mushy its game over. Dont take the load is my advise or you may eat the load.
     
  5. Mr. PlumCrazy

    Mr. PlumCrazy Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't take It I dont care if the shipper signed a contract saying they will pay any and all claims. The sitting till they figure out what they are going to do is not worth it
     
  6. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    If you were picking this up in the field--or at the original Mexican cross border--I might be willing to go along with this--I p/u warm product often at the origin point with the understanding--that it was loaded fresh(warm0and it will be vented(and somewhat cooled at delivery point)with loading PULP TEMPS--properly documented and signed off on----BUT--in this case--this is not new fresh product it has already traveled cross country--which leads me to believe--there has been an issue or issues along the way--without written approval from the final customer--that they know I am picking up there product for final delivery at out of range temps etc...I wouldn't touch it....
    Just my $.02
     
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  7. ralph

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    So, if the ambient temp is 50F could you load these, open your vents, run down the road and "cool" them?
     
  8. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Theoretically yes--BUT--again--this product has been in transit quite awhile--while that may hold true--with frshly picked--uncooled product--from the way I read the OP--that isn't the case here--also--depending on type of trailer you have--and size of front vents--you can cool down product that way over time--but it isnt real effecient--since you really do not get true air circulation from vent flow thru as you do with mechaniocal refrigeration--and it is the air circulation in the trailer that not only helps cool--but draws out the heat in the product
     
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  9. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    The update:

    I picked up the load and brought it to consignee. He unloaded it all, pulped ONE pallet (of 23) and somehow it read 55.4. He wrote pulp 55.4 on the bills, received, printed and signed. I have no idea how this happened. The fruit itself was half yellow and half green, so not totally ripe yet. Also I asked the receiver how long it takes him to move this load and he said it is already sold and will be gone by Monday. The guy even gave me his card to call him if I want direct freight from him because "he doesn't like paying spot market price." He told me he brings them up from Mexico all year. I'll be going back on my long runs again next week. Easier on me and "if you want something done right, do it yourself." Oh - also - I can get COD from this broker first thing Monday morning.

    Appreciate everyone's input here.
     
  10. kwloo

    kwloo Medium Load Member

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    Glad it worked out for you . I thought the 4 hr run to Toronto wasn't enough time to change the situation.
     
  11. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Glad it worked out for you. Will you be sitting at the brokers door Monday am waiting for the check?
    Again glad it worked out for you.
     
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