What can you do after a jackknife?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by t_v, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. t_v

    t_v Light Load Member

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    Looks like this wouldn't have gone so badly if the guy had just backed up another 60feet or so
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    You may have a future as a truck driver. It's about 95% common sense. Common sense isn't that common anymore, which is why we have so few quality drivers coming in.
    1) Never rush.
    2) Never give dang about what anyone else thinks - see number 1.
    3) Smooth is fast. Smooth comes with much practice.

     
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  4. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    @Dave_in_AZ hit it on the head...don't be in a rush and drive for the conditions...getting there a little late if necessary beats having the company have to call the customer and tell them they're load is jack-kniffed in a ditch...or worse. I've been out here 22 years (in a couple months) and as of this morning, I haven't jack-kniffed once (it's still morning where I am, so I won't tempt fate from this point forward by saying "I never")
     
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  5. fargonaz

    fargonaz Road Train Member

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    Looks like the OP's picture is showing someone who didn't want to wait at the fuel island anymore. The guy isn't stuck he's just messed the cab fairings. He'll probably have to pull forward to prevent further damage, and get it straight again.
     
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  6. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    @t_v here is some of the or worse part.
    As my esteemed colleagues have brought to the table, your gonna be on the hook for the wrecker for at least a grand.
    Just that simple jack knife, probably $1500 damage to the tractor, IF THE AXLES AREN'T TWEAKED.
    So your at $2500 right?

    How bout the load? Load shift? RUH ROH.

    This is a beer load one of our drivers brake checked after 1000 mile trip, 6 miles from the yard.

    This ended up being FIVE pallets of longnecks in the rubbish. That's 7,560 twelve ounce beers. Dunno say $3700 for the beer. All the spacers got obliterated, lets just call it $4K in cargo.

    Lumper service $800 to unload / restack / reload trailer.

    I got 8 hours in it, so just my time $200. Boss could charge the driver for fuel & tractor as well. Load was week late. Big hit to reputation.

    So $5000 in cargo damage.

    Insurance deductible is $2000. So how would you like to pay for that? Cash or credit? $500 out of 4 checks?

    Smooth, smooth, smooth is fast.

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  7. TripleSix

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    Not saying you're wrong. Let's just go a step further:

    Everyone who drives a car believes that he is a good driver. So they see you and me and instantly think that they can drive. After all, we are just sitting there holding on the wheel, right? You hear people say even at TTR, "Driving is not rocket science."
    True, but there IS a science. CRST's trailer pushed him into a tractor jackknife. Why? DRIVING TOO FAST FOR CONDITIONS. But see, this is instinct. This driver ALWAYS drives fast in parkinglots. This is why some driver crash and some dont. Those bad habits that you do in good weather, it will be what you instinctively do in bad weather.

    You cant drive like a jack arse for years in good weather and then suddenly, in bad weather, somehow pull it together. Understand this rookies? The sooner you lose the bad habits, the better and more profitable your career will be.

    Now, im not saying that only rookies do stupid stuff, I am saying that rookies, you know, you guys still in learning mode, have a better chance of getting rid of bad habits. The guys that are veterans at being stupid, theres almost no hope for them. Their driving instincts are set.

    "How do I know if I have bad driving habits, Six?"

    Heavy braking. If you are having to do hard brakes often, you have a very bad habit. You are not paying attention.

    Tap brakes often. You are following too close.

    Trailer wiggle. You are sawing at the steering wheel.

    Load shift. Your are taking turns and curves too fast and the trailer is pushing the tractor.

    In good weather, you may get away with bad driving habits. In bad weather, you will not.
     
  8. bzinger

    bzinger Road Train Member

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    Omg all that wasted beer ..I'm starting to cry lol
     
  9. fargonaz

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    Just bud, no real loss
     
  10. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    This is why that load was trashed. Poor technique.
    You just don't drive a certain way then change.
     
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  11. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I'm in the yard looking for a trailer cause the number on the load isn't right. So I'm opening the BOL box on the front looking, looking.............I smell beer.
    WTF?
    Smell getting stronger, finally lost my mind right?
    Look at the BOL's that trailer, it's going to the distributor. Beer still running out of the trailer.
    What a F mess.
     
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