What is your "below dignity" or insult rate?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TallJoe, Mar 18, 2022.

Money you left with after after fuel and tollways per day.

  1. $1500 and less

    6 vote(s)
    17.1%
  2. $1000 and less

    9 vote(s)
    25.7%
  3. $800 and less

    8 vote(s)
    22.9%
  4. $500 and less

    3 vote(s)
    8.6%
  5. $300 and less

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  6. not such a thing

    8 vote(s)
    22.9%
  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Yeah but you know what, that's really stupid. Reality is with expensive fuel,,,, you cover the deadhead. And I am no stranger to some massive deadhead. But I cut a lot of that #### out anymore. In lots of areas with a reefer and a van it is foolish. If you run the same areas you know what you can do into and out of.
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    If I'm hauling somewhere with cheap freight, I need a # that pays for me to deadhead out. If I'm out two weeks, I want to gross 28k. Running team the last 12 days with a buddy, and 2 days off in Nebraska for a tranny swap, I'm sitting at the house now grossing 33k those 10 days.

    Not sure yet what was actually made yet.
     
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  4. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    For instance, taking, as it used to be $1100 from Baltimore to Chicago vs. going back on empty. If I have shown that rate per mile to someone without context, it could make me look not very dignified. Not that I care much about it but you know how social media works... That's why going to Baltimore is where the deal must be good for me.
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    It's about the averages and it does no good to talk rates on social media. It's best to keep that info to yourself because you took the risk and earned that knowledge the hard way. There's lots of lazy people looking for free info so they can cut your throat at the first chance.
     
  6. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Hyena sexual dimporphism is actually fascinating, its actually a female dominated heirarchy and the specifics of the signaling dominance may actually be a violation of the forum rules as it involves lengthy descriptions of the anatomy, but loom it up, its quite interesting
     
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  7. Badmon

    Badmon Heavy Load Member

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    There's also lots of motivated people trying to make a real difference in the industry too don't forget about them
     
  8. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    I use different benchmarks.

    Gross to the truck, then apply profit/expense to give me a figure that I’ll be responsible on paying taxes on before it gets to the household.

    So $2,000/day to the truck at (recently) 65/35 profit/expense gives me $1,300 pretax per day to the house.

    This run for example is 1800 miles loaded and I’ve loaded it legal. $13,800 to the truck.

    What will I find in Oregon? Probably nothing exciting. May deadhead back home.

    $13,800 and 8 days - $1,725/day. Or $8,970 personal income before tax. On 3600 miles - $2.49/mile profit.

    Or I might find something up in OR to haul, or along the way home. This will certainly raise net revenue, but may dilute per day/per mile.

    I don’t consider it a dignity question, more of a profitability and time issue. We all have different ways of looking at it.

    A guy that comes from a company job paying 50cpm with truck and trailer payments leased to xxx carrier may have wildly different expectations.
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    That's fine. I'll spot for a rookie having a time backing up in a tight spot. Might even give them a tip on set up to save them some headache to make it easy if I think they might appreciate it. But business is business. There's a lot you can read to learn and you can ask people too. They may or may not be forthcoming but you can't hold it against them if they're not.
     
  10. supergreatguy

    supergreatguy Road Train Member

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    Normally net $500-1200 a day only hauling Texas. Grab trailer, ride empty out, come back loaded. Drop trailer, go home. BUT! I have many weeks I’ll work 2-3 days.

    If my wife is getting called to a birth, she’s netting $500-1000 normally, cash per call. She works 1-2 days a week.

    if I’m day trading stocks, my net range per day bounces within $850-3850 per day. Normally 2-5 trades per day.

    if I’m driving and trade stocks throughout the day, my goal is normally net $1500-2500 per day.

    I usually put my focus on the daily and weekly.

    I like to keep current with my truck because it maintains the security of income, while stock market profit is my end goal.
     
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  11. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Now thats taking a risk right there! Day trading. Trucking is a breeze haha!
     
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