I'm not the most expensive carrier out there, but, neither am I the cheapest carrier out there. I understand market conditions, but, I cannot operate below my breakeven point either. I really don't see $3 a mile being so far fetched that broker's should be insulting. I just scratched off my list a mega broker that loves to dish out insults instead of just simply saying, we cannot agree to your rate's at this time. No, the broker didn't laugh, but basically told me to go F myself. That's definitely not a broker that I would like to do business with. Before I run 1000 for a $1.90 a mile, I'll deadhead back to my base empty. I understand that some carrier's can make this work, but I cannot operate on a $1.90 a mile.
When Broker's laugh at your rates.........
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by femalecdla, Aug 12, 2021.
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What lane and what kind of equipment?
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It isn't always necessarily the broker although if a broker gives you an attitude then you have to find another one.
But it really depends on the load and how bad it has to go and there really is a certain amount that they have into it. Some loads there's more room than others.
I don't know what your conversation sounds like but my suggestion is to just know what number that you need and if they can't hit that thank you and we'll try again another time that's all. Or if anything changes you can contact me.
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What "mega broker?"
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me: "where do you want to be with this load"
them: "where do you want to be"
me: "gives rate"
*silence
me: "what do you think?"
them: "I'm thinking about hanging the phone up"
Then the sausage sucker hung the phone up on me. Why ask me my rate and not be willing to negotiate makes no sense. Some sausage sucker at blue ox freight.Last edited: Aug 12, 2021
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But, do many brokers frown upon that in general?
I mean, I might see a load posted for 3.50 a mile totalling maybe $4300. I'll say $5,000 but I'm not expecting that much with it already at 3.50 a mile. I'm doing it expecting the broker might counter with $4500 or so, which I would accept. Of course, I could have offered $4,500 from the start, but sometimes the broker will counter with a higher amount than that or possibly even accept the $5000. -
If that's really "all you have in it", then tell the shipper he needs to stop being such a tightwad, and he'd get his freight moved a lot faster.
Now this isn't directed at you in particular, but it is directed at 99% of them, and if you fall into that crowd, then I guess it's directed at you too.black_dog106, Rubber duck kw, 86scotty and 14 others Thank this. -
Called the other day with a Tulsa to Denver, and he was emailing his 3PL as we talked. I shot him $7k because of what it was and where - he emailed the guy and got the response -
“Tell that driver to go F himself “
We both laughed.
My guy is professional - we had breakfast once, but he doesn’t need me to break down the $ and time it takes to run my business to him , like I don’t need to know what his ‘customer’ is trying to move something for.
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“I’d be glad to offer capacity for ‘x’, and if you need me, feel free to call”.PSM379, Speed_Drums, Badmon and 7 others Thank this. -
You call on the 5k, then get given all the details, then told - “It actually only pays $3k- you ok with that?”
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