Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. snowblind

    snowblind Heavy Load Member

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    go to fmsca web site and see what some companys are being cited for,then tell me its a good thing.be careful what you wish for children you might get and not really want it
     
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  3. cowboy_tech

    cowboy_tech Road Train Member

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    Our brothers across the pond have dealing with tachographs. I remember a couple of them trying to warn us about electronic logs.

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  4. BJnobear

    BJnobear Heavy Load Member

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    Sounds familiar...

    I was told the same thing at Western regarding a copper load I was on at the time. On this load it was the dispatcher of the swapping truck that screwed the pooch. My dispatcher and me were screwed by this idiot. Had I been given correct information the violations would never have happened.

    The problem is this system still depends on humans. Humans that will do anything to force the square peg into the round hole.
     
  5. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    it was never about safety or running legal, wake up.
     
  6. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    ELOGS ensure the mechanical unit (truck) is compliant 100%. It has no way of ensuring the biological unit (human) is compliant at all.
     
  7. EZ Money

    EZ Money Road Train Member

    ELDs a good thing....GOD! Are you drivers smoking ##### crack?
     
  8. Rugerfan

    Rugerfan Road Train Member

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    While I don’t support the government demanding people go on an ELOG, I see good and bad in it. It will suck when someone tries to get Home on a Friday and can’t anymore. But on the other hand when a guy complains because he can’t make the same 800 mile run in one shot like he could before, I have a hard time finding sympathy. I might lose some friends over that
     
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  9. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    A couple of tips are in order. I have been using Elogs for about 7 years now. To avoid the lack of getting home thing, I have established several places roughly 45 min to an hour away from home that I can drop a trailer if I need to and then run on home on Personal Conveyance. Don't have to use that method very often, but it does work in a pinch.

    Really watch those status settings. Get to off duty as soon as you can anywhere. I will go to On
    Duty when I show up at a customer, but after no more than 10 minutes, go to Off Duty and stay that way till I leave. Same with fueling. Off duty when I first get there, then only on duty during the time of actual pumping fuel, then back to off duty.

    Do those pre-trip inspections BEFORE you actually select on duty for that purpose. That way if there is a actual problem that needs attention, you have not started your clock for the day. When thing check out, then go to On Duty for 8-10 minutes just before you are ready to leave.

    Just plan things out as best you can. Be more meticulous about choosing you routes. Get all the apps for your smart phone like those 511 traffic apps that are put out by many state DOT offices. Weather apps to let you know a week in advance what is going on and had real time radar showing weather. Then you can adjust what you are doing to avoid things or better manage when you stop and when you are moving so as to not burn up a lot of clock time unnecessarily.

    I got the Elog several years ago mostly to find out if I could actually make money by using one. I saw the writing on the wall that eventually most everyone would be on these. Well, I found out that I can do just fine on Elogs. Not in love with it by any stretch of the imagination. But am comfortable using it and have gotten things to where I have no concerns in being profitable using it. Did require some little effort on my part to get myself more efficient, but well worth the effort.
     
  10. tech10171968

    tech10171968 Medium Load Member

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    I am of the same opinion. I can see dispatchers having to be a little more careful about sticking a driver with a run that everyone knows d_mned well he can't complete without cheating; no more expecting the driver to fix it in the logbook and risk his CDL. Sooner or later I expect the shippers to be a little more cognizant about how long they are keeping trucks hooked up to the dock (but this may be wishful thinking...)

    I've said this about 1,000 times here and I'll keep right on saying it: ELD's themselves are not the problem, especially if you've been trying to run legal the whole time. The real issue is the way that HOS are regulated, especially that stupid 14-hour nonstop clock. If drivers were allowed to take actual breaks then not only does a lot of the cheating go away, but there may even be a small improvement in driver's health (as thing stand now, who has time for a healthy, sit-down meal? Just enough time nowadays for wolfing down a couple of day-old hot dogs or some overpriced fast food.) They could eliminate probably 80% of the reason anybody ever cheated on their logs in the first place.

    These jackholes think that they can solve these problems with some one-size-fits-all regulations, little realizing that HOS can affect different sectors of this industry in completely different ways. Maybe they'd be a bit less clueless if they didn't base everything they know about trucking on a binge-session of watching BJ and the Bear episodes.
     
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  11. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    This owner operator lays it out perfectly why they are bad things.

     
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