Why don't drivers who are regularly late get fired?

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  1. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

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    One of things I like about my gig is I don’t have appointments. I just show up, get a signature, hook up my hose and 45 - 60 minutes later I’m headed down the road to grab another load.

    Wash, rinse, repeat…
     
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    As some others have mentioned, SOMETIMES appointments really dont matter much. Most of what we do at my job is drop & hook. The customer may not even unload that trailer for a week. Appointments sometimes are an administrative idea of managing loads.
    In reality, most of our loads are set by the broker of our customer.

    Our customer produces a product & hands it off to their sister company that is a broker agent for every plant this company owns. The broker "system" puts either a 7 am, 8 am or an 11 am appointment time to every load. Although probably 98% of the places we deliver don't even have appointment times. Its either drop & hook or just get here today & we'll unload you.
    Our management uses this "imaginary" appointment time to pressure us with, when its convenient to use as a means to discipline a driver, dispatcher or manager. It means nothing. Kinda like when one of the above gets caught pumping the boss's secretary. Sometime they cant fire you for that because, the boss don't want a sex scandal to eventually trace back to him or his secretary so... "we see that numbers are down on appointment times and its all your fault. We gotta let you go."
    However, we do have about 2% of our drops/receivers who do actually have appointment times set. We know who those are & how strict or flexible the receiver is. We as drivers adjust to that, as do the dispatchers.

    My post is specific to our contract... not everybody else's here. I'm just explaining why "appointment times" matter to some carriers/customers/receivers/shippers & not to others. Sometimes, in our situation, appointment times are just "imaginary" or just something to fill in the blank on a computer data software document.
     
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    Companies don't usually explain their decisions to drivers not-involved in the situation. Also, not every appointment time is an "or else" appointment time. I worked with a factory with a production line and if being late caused one or more production lines to stop whoever is responsible for that stop will be charged several thousand dollars per minute for that lost production line stoppage. If a supplier causes one production line to stop and that production line being stopped causes other production lines to stop the responsible party will be charged for the cascading stoppage and pay for all of those costs.

    Having said all of that, even that factory that only allowed a 30 minute variance in appointments/delivery scheduled parts to arrive 2-4 hours before needed for parts shipped within say 150 miles and 2 days or more for parts originating from distant suppliers, including overseas. Not all appointment times are created equally final.
     
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    My question exactly. I'm not sure why that's any of his concern.
     
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    Hey @REO6205 what's that device in your thumbnail. Is it a tachograph?
     
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    Yup. Actually its a speedo-graph. We still have a few trucks with those in them.
     
  7. buddyd157

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    your question is ambiguous.

    you don't say how or when they are late.

    you don't mention your particular job function, or are you a student?

    many reasons for "being late".......

    do you ever question woman when she is "late"..??

    and there are more than 1 reasons why a woman can be late...............just saying.
     
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    Doing reffer I was occasionally late but I could always point to an exact reason for the tardy and it was never due to wasted time.
    But I also think it would be unfair to use me as a standard. I kept the door closed, would adjust my eating and drinking to not need to stop until my required 30 min break that would be taken refueling the truck and then hitting the bathroom before rolling out at exactly :31 minutes. Same with my 10 hour reset, at 10:01 official pretrip was started and at 10:06 I was rolling. Proper pretrip, bathroom/shower, walk, sleeper clean up and refreshments were all done before the 10 hours are up. I'm usually comfortable with 6-7 hours of sleep.
    But that's not the way most people operate. Nor should it be. Most people will get burned out and quit with that life style. And why shouldn't a driver stop to walk for a few minutes every couple of hours? Doesn't dispatch get to leave their desk to move around? Why not drivers? It's unhealthy to work the way I did. My health should me more important than a unrealistic time schedule.
     
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    Strange, we get an hour leeway at WM.
     
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    Wally World plays too many games. 1 hour early they penalize and make you spin around 15 mins late to the office they hold you up 6 hours and don’t pay detention. These goons want you arriving at the office at exact apt and they don’t care if the guard shack line is all the way to the street.
     
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