WLL of Trailer Tiedown Points

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  1. JimmyWells

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    I've had them TRY to ticket me for a plethora of things over the years simply due to THEIR incorrect interpretation of the regulations. One of which was in fact over an anchor point.
     
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  3. clausland

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    Although it sounds like there should be an easy answer, there isn't, here's why...The steel used in the trailer construction is graded, but how does one guarantee the WLL of a welded joint, unless each and every weld is tested and approved....It would be cost prohibitive for the trailer mfr to do this....Additionally, liability wise, they would be foolish to stamp it without actually testing it....
    Historically, the anchor point has long been considered to be the strongest part of the securement link, and history has taught us that it is usually driver error, then a chain or strap that lets go, that results in a securement failure, not the anchor point.....FWIW, I pulled FB for years and never got a ticket for that, nor had a securement failure happen.....But, I suppose if I had developed a bad attitude towards the officer, he/she might go looking for such things, but I'll digress......
     
  4. JimmyWells

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    Generally speaking, I've had very little problems with DOT as a whole. However, the times I have had an issue has always been with one that just simply doesn't understand the law or interprets it in an odd fashion. It's also worth mentioning that they're usually rookies.
     
  5. Ke6gwf

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    From what I have seen, experienced and read over the last 20 years comes down to this.

    I have rarely ever seen a securement point on a trailer ripped off. I have seen them bent and damaged however.
    This tells me, and most inspection officers as well, that generally speaking, a securement point on a trailer will handle the load put on it, as long as it looks good, and isn't showing signs of being damaged.

    I have heard of people being told to connect chains differently, and sometimes being cited for improper securement when the officer didn't like where on the trailer they were attached.
    Sometimes this is frivolous, sometimes it is very accurate.

    I have often hooked chains to the edge of the frame cutouts on lowboys etc, when that gave me the angle I needed, but I have also heard of people getting hassled for that.
    On the other hand, if someone wraps a 1/2" chain around the rub rail bar (not a spool or pocket) on a flatbed, and expects to get WLL out of it, you are going to be disappointed! Lol

    I used to hook 5/16 chain onto the rub rail, pulling up against a spool or pocket, all day long, and never had an issue, either with inspection, or with damage to the rub rail. (steel trailer, wouldn't do it with aluminum) but if I was needing full WLL out of that chain, I would still wrap it around a pocket.

    Basically, if the inspector can look at the tiedown point, and common sense says it is not strong enough for the load on it, or it is showing signs of distortion, then you have a problem.

    So, use common sense when you tiedown, and don't stress about it.
     
  6. JimmyWells

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    I believe Reitnour has trailers with rubrails rated at 6,600 pounds and I would have zero problem using said rubrail if I needed the extra WLL for my load. Of course I wouldn't use one if there was no data plate proving that though. I use 3/8 chains and binders so I like everything to match so I don't lose any load rating. Keeping at all at 6,600 makes it easy. Normally, I wrap around at least one, sometimes two stake pockets on each side. All depending on the weight of the load I'm securing and how much space I have to work with.

    I'm far from stressed about it. Just wanted to get some input from others in case I was missing something.
     
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    I pull a 53ft reitnouer maximizer and the rub rails on this are rated for 5400. I'll get you a picture of the data plate later on
     
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  8. JimmyWells

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    That's pretty standard. I forget what model the Reitnour is but that particular one has a rubrail that plated for 6,600 pounds. I'll see if I can find a picture of the data plate.
     
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    I do believe I got this from your post in the above mentioned thread.
     
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