Worth it?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by HoneyBadger67, Dec 28, 2019.

  1. Cabinover101

    Cabinover101 Heavy Load Member

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    When you said 35% you mean for your truck only like you are paid 65% of the line haul (company gets 35%) for your tractor only? And if you bought your own trailer you would then get 75% (company gets 25%) of the line haul for your truck and trailer? ..
    Have to make sure you are comparing Apples to Apples when people start throwing percentage numbers around
     
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  3. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    I’m like you. Percentages don’t mean a thing. What’s important is how much money I get at the end of the day.
     
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  4. Judge

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    I have thought about this, I get 65% do alot of drop/hook.
    But I could run without drop/hook, did for 3 months just for tryout.
    But everyone says, that 10% will pay for a trailer in 2-3 years.
    It would, if all 10%went to trailer pay, what about insurance for that trailer?
    Upkeep? Granted, new trailer..but what if?
     
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  5. Johny41

    Johny41 Road Train Member

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    No.
    If you change company and don't need the trailer, finding parking is a pain until you sell it.
     
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  6. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Well what does that 10% pay for if you don't have a trailer?
    trailer insurance is pretty cheap, maintenance, nit bad under most operations.
    The way I look at it I would know my trailer, and not be hooking on one that needed work to get to the first load.
     
  7. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Should I mention a DOT officer in arkansas put me OOS with a brand new trailer, flatbed, with papertag, on the way to first load, due to brakes being “wore slam out”
    I called little rock and explained, they threw the ticket out later.
    Proof, DOT can do whatever the officer wants
     
  8. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    Company you’re currently with takes 35% of the linehaul? I have to admit that’s a bit high. Most companies will take around 25%. It’s also not a problem to find a company that only takes 25% and provides all the trailers for free. Prime is an example. As long as you can find a company paying more than 35% and gives you a free trailer to use I see no point in buying a trailer of your own. I just wish I would’ve figured that out a few years ago. I could’ve saved myself a lot of headache because of the trailer I have now. Of course I had a need for a trailer because I was operating under my own operating authority and I needed a trailer. Ironically, it appears I may not need a trailer any longer. Just do yourself a favor and ask yourself very honestly, do you really need a trailer of your own? If you’re only trying to get an extra 10% you don’t need a new trailer, you need a new carrier.
     
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  9. HoneyBadger67

    HoneyBadger67 Road Train Member

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    I get 65% now, not having a trailer. Some companies require you to purchase your own or lease/rent a trailer from them. Just pondering whether the extra 10% is worth the extra costs/effort.
     
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  10. Cabinover101

    Cabinover101 Heavy Load Member

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    Yeah, did I see Warren stickers? I thought they were pretty decent? Never really checked into them, just know they did the loading at Waterloo John Deere
     
  11. HoneyBadger67

    HoneyBadger67 Road Train Member

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    You're eyesight is okay...LoL

    I know everyone has the same sob story these days about rates and all. I know they will probably get worse before they get better. Cant help wondering at times like this, though, if there might be greener grass elsewhere.
     
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  12. GraniteRiver

    GraniteRiver Light Load Member

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    For 10% I hope its a reefer, otherwise that's a bit steep. Reefer average is 10%, van and flat in the 5-7% range.

    Here's some basic overall numbers with zero down from my own experience, numbers will vary. A basic dry van will run you about $750 month, same with a basic 48 combo flat. A new reefer will run you in the $1700 range. Everyone's insurance will vary greatly, but expect the van should be in the $250/month full coverage range, reefer $350.

    Even if you break even, at the end of 5 years you have an asset paid for. That van will still be worth $20k or so, reefer in the mid $40's. You're paying for that trailer one way or another, might as well own it after 5 years. With the van you're looking at a minimum of two sets of tires and basic PM's in that 5 years if you take care of it. Reefer expense will of course be higher.

    Some carriers have great drop and hook that may make it worth it if you're able to keep moving, Dave at Landstar swears by it there. Take into account what you gross on average per month, and figure what that 10% is worth to you.

    You have experience with your carrier, so it should be pretty simple to look at the numbers and decide. If you were new to the carrier, Id say test it out first before making the commitment. If you're grossing $200k year, that's $20k and more than half that van or flat paid for, paid off in two years if you were committed. Then it all goes in your pocket, except the maintenance.

    Thats my opinion and $.02 worth.
     
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