You run out of hours, not allowed to park on property for your 10

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 1278PA, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. 1278PA

    1278PA Road Train Member

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    What do you do if you run out of drive hours because you were waiting to be unloaded or loaded and they say you can't park overnight on the property?
     
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  3. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    If you turn your 4-ways on you can park anywhere.
     
  4. shogun

    shogun Road Train Member

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    Did somebody say log off? Sure some elog systems track the truck when it's not moving but it's better to risk the former radio shack employee running the safety dept catching it than getting a guaranteed violation and not making the next drop.
     
  5. STexan

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    You do what you gotta do. But contrary to popular belief, if you go over on hours on your eLogs and it declares you "In Violation", your truck will not blow up, you will not be executed at sunrise, nor will you be sentenced to 10 years hard labor.

    It happens. Do as much as you can to go in with as much time as possible where there may be such problems, but sometimes you have to go into a receiver/shipper with minimal hours, and this happens.
     
  6. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Screw that. These mega carriers wanted eLogs, let them deal with the fallout. As long as the driver did everything possible to properly manage their time, and a shipper/receiver jerks them around excessively, then it's the carrier's problem, not the driver's .... or you can park it in the street and let the carrier deal with the problem that results from that. Choice is theirs.
     
  7. shogun

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    I agree that it thumbs the nose at the mega carriers, but if it messes with my money, that's a different story.
     
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  8. Moosetek13

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    If you are waiting but not in a dock you can always head for a nearby truck stop or Walmart or other safe parking area. Call your company to explain why you are leaving and have the pickup/delivery rescheduled for the next day.

    If you are in the dock and in the process, then tell the shipper/receiver that you won't move the truck illegally until you have completed a 10 hour break. They can call the police on you, and then you can have the police escort you to a safe location for your break. Add a note into the log as to why it was violated.

    If you are using e-logs and there is a place to park very close by you can drive very slowly so the system doesn't kick you onto the drive line. A little further away, you can drive for a few minutes and stop (shutting off the engine for several seconds), going off duty again, then after 5 minutes drive a little more. Then repeat until you get there.

    But the best solution is to try to manage your time so that does not happen.
    Not always possible if it is taking 6-8 hours at the customer to get things done.
     
  9. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    And I'm really surprised by the previous responses, as they were no help at all.
    (Sorry, except for STexan)

    It is not about mega carriers nor e-logs, it is about running out of time at a customer that doesn't allow us to park on their property - even when they take a long time to load/unload us.

    It is on those people - not our company or the type of logs we use!

    How many of these places, grocery like Safeway, make us wait a couple hours after our scheduled appointment time just to get a door?
    And then they use lumpers, and make them re-pallet and count every single item before they release the driver? That can take 3-4 hours as well.

    So get a grip and get on subject!
     
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  10. supersnackbar

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    There is a youtube tow/recovery guy named Ron Pratt. He has a video where he had to go out to a customer and pickup a USxpress driver and his truck who had that exact scenerio happen...ran out of hours.

     
  11. Kyle G.

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    As you gain more and more experience out there, you will come to know which companies are notorious for being slow, and to plan accordingly whenever you have to deal with them.

    It's important to stay in communication with your dispatcher whenever you are getting low on hours and you find yourself in a questionable situation. It's better to call ahead of time and say, "i don't think I should deliver at that day/time. If I do I will only have a few hours left and they don't allow parking there...", than to call them the next day after you've already given yourself a violation and try to justify it.

    This way all of the bad decision-making is on your employer, not you.
     
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