You run out of hours, not allowed to park on property for your 10

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 1278PA, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. IluvCATS

    IluvCATS Road Train Member

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    I’ll be looking for safe haven when my elogs run out. :)
     
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  3. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    The thing is that most people don't correct the misconceptions about the adverse conditions rule, such as not being able to go past your 14, or whatnot. They just harp on people calling it "safe haven". And frankly, who cares what they call it, so long as they use it correctly.
     
  4. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    However most times they don't. As you mentioned it only extends driving time, not 14, but my understanding is you can only use it to finish your run you would have finished had you not run into the adverse condition. Delivering or dropping it in a yard is finishing. Going to a truck stop is not.
     
  5. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    Safehaven and using the exception to exstend your driving by two hours (not to exceed your 14) due to unforseen weather and or certain traffic issues at time of dispatch are to different things.

    Safehaven is for hazmat drivers only and has nothing to do with the exstend driving exception whatsoever.
     
  6. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    No they don't.. thats ridiculous.. Just because you go over your hours doesn't mean lighting bolts strike down apon you..

    I read some of the doom and gloom posts here about Elogs's and its kinda hilarious to be honest. Even if you are out of hours you can drive to a safe place to park. No that doesn't mean 40 miles to the next favorable truck stop, but rather a safe place..

    Also in many situations off duty driving is completely legal even if you are in the middle of your reset and that drive time wont affect your reset.
     
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  7. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    What kind of company won't let you park on their property surely their not that heartless?
     
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  8. IluvCATS

    IluvCATS Road Train Member

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    I heard that if you need “safe haven” because your clock ran out, you'll be able to just pull over anywhere. You now have a DOT-approved safespace for up to 10 hours. Is that true?
     
  9. FreightlinerGuy

    FreightlinerGuy Medium Load Member

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    What happen to the DOT officer that used to post here?

    There was a lady in some companies log department too that use to post. I forget her username exactly.
     
  10. Farmerbob1

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    At Crete / Shaffer / Hunt, if you run out of hours at a receiver, and have no load in the box, you can go to line 5, off-duty driving, and travel up to 1 hour to get to a legal, safe place to park.

    Do this when under load, and the compliance department will revert you to on-duty driving. They watch our use of line 5 like hawks.

    We are also allowed to use line 5 when bobtail, as long as we remain bobtail, and return to where we went bobtail before going to on duty or driving.

    Not all companies allow this. I am not sure why our company does. It may be a pilot program? I know I never heard of it either in CDL school, or at Stevens Transport when I worked for them.

    If your company does not allow line 5, or you still are under load (multi-stop) then, well, things get a little more creative.

    Some restaurants and hotels have truck parking. Most cities allow parking down dead-end roads as long as you don't block any driveways.

    Many industrial area roads are extra-wide to accommodate roadside parking for trucks.

    Looking at your current location form overhead with Google Maps, in satellite view, can help you spot likely parking hideyholes, BUT that data can be out of date.

    Your company may have official policies on how to handle a situation like that as well. If you are near a terminal, they might send a driver to you in a company car, and have that driver drive your truck to the terminal, while you drive the car back.

    Sometimes your company can arrange for you to stay on site for a 10 hour break, even if you cannot. This means that you had better be polite when asking to start with, and dont be an ### to the people who said no to begin with if your company gets someone higher up the food chain at the receiver to allow you to break their rules and stay on site.

    The number of possible solutions are large. Not all of them are technically legal.
     
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  11. BigBob410

    BigBob410 Road Train Member

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    Did you watch the video posted? That is exactly what they did! I find it completely ridiculous but there it is! Also if you read my other post... I have gone over on a few occasions. My company doesn't beat you down over a few minutes here and there. They understand the real world other companies I'm not sure about because I wouldn't drive for someone that hasn't been out here before.
     
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