You run out of hours, not allowed to park on property for your 10

No. You must be unladen. So you can drop your trailer and bobtail, you can't take the laden cmv for PC. You also can't use it to reposition equipment. So when you are required by your company or the shipper to remove the vehicle from the premises, you are repositioning the equipment, and it is not PC.

 

If you take the loaded trailer, until you got back, that would be considered advancing the load. I didn't say you could drive around with the load, I said under a load, as in dispatched, you have it and are responsible for it. I figured common sense would prevail since the concern would be getting stopped or and accident while off duty. If that happens, the officer isn't going to believe "well I was gonna go back over there later."

 

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Seems like forcing a situation where cops are called or you have to be towed out of the customers yard is going to cause a lot of problems between you and your company and your company and the shipper/receiver. If I were a shipper, I wouldn't trust my load would make it anywhere if it can't even make it out my gate.

 

.. I used to have a load about every 6 weeks or so (after hometime) that I ran in a days time and was always tight on hours when I got there .. drivers weren't allowed to over night at the facility so I would make a note in my e-log for "seeking a safe harbor" and drive to a stop about 10 minutes away..I never had a problem with the company but it's not something you want to make a habit of doing..if your company is worth a crap and they see you usually manage your time well they shouldn't make a big deal of it..the DOT is another thing entirely but , they don't want anyone to be in an unsafe place taking their 10hr mandated break..

 

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It seems to be the prevailing thought.

 

Basically what I was going to say. My company won't beat you down over a few minutes here and there as long as there is a reason. No place to park where I was...no problem get to the closest safe place and shut it down. Send a note. No problem.

 

Sure. Just keep in mind that you don't necessarily have to stop and start in the same spot. You can't be repositioning equipment, so if your dispatch tells you to head toward portland and wait for a dispatch, that's on duty. But if you are at the t ruck stop, and get tired of being there and go to a hotel, technically you are in a different position but you aren't really repositioning the equipment. You don't have to go back to the truck stop before coming back on duty, just go on duty when you get your dispatch.

Nevertheless, if you run out of hours at the shipper/receiver and you PC it over to the truck stop, that's log falsification, and HOS violation, since you should be logging that on duty.

 

Must be unladen , can't be advancing towards next load.
Several of you need to read the actual guidance , your giving out a lot of false info on PC.

 

Question 26: If a driver is permitted to use a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?

Guidance:

a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver’s home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver’s terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver’s en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver’s home, from the driver’s home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier’s Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.

A driver placed out of service for exceeding the requirements of the hours of service regulations may not drive a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) to any location to obtain rest.
Seems pretty straightforward to me...