You run out of hours, not allowed to park on property for your 10

Oh yeah, I wasn't telling anyone to PC it from the customer. My bad for not quoting the person I was responding to, but my post was specific to a comment made about only at home. I use PC all the time one way.

 

It really is pretty straight forward I always find it funny when people start throwing out the misconceptions and myths because they've chosen to believe what they hear on the CB or at the liars counter instead of just looking it up in the green book or online at FMCSA.
or they've taking the word of the jackwad in their safety dept.

 

on most company's elog systems, drive time isn't editable, and the system automatically switches you to drive time after a certain distance/speed.

line 4 is 'on duty' on every system I have ever used, and not all systems have a line 5 "off duty driving"

 

One of your jobs as a truck driver is to keep track of your hours.If you're not sure how to check your hours with elogs then ask your company how.If you think you're going to run out of hours you tell dispatch if no answer from them on what to dothen leave and find parking.That's what I would do anyway.Companies don't worry about drivers running out of hours its not there CDL so you do what you have to do to prevent that from happening.Just don't wait I till the last hour to do anything start worrying a few hours before you run out of hours.

 

Father in law spent 1 1/2 hours moving 34 miles on I-75 coming out of Knoxville Friday. Just a crazy guestion but how you manage that time? All the unforeseen obstacles that will be throwed at you. No matter how good a person you may think you are, things happen out of our control. Not always the customer that gets us. Ever heard the term madhouse? I feel it's going to get worse. Be safe out there.

 

More I read about Elog the more I feel it's going to be one big cluster, once everyone is on them. Y'all be safe out there, that's always number 1 priority.

 

Seems to be there is no room for situations requiring a move from shipper or reciever who has kicked you off the property against your hours situation.

###### if you do and ###### if you don't So go to a truckstop and get back your hours however long that takes. IF you have been following your last 8 days recap you would already know that your hours will run out today regardless of what the customer will do.

In my time there was a personal conveyance provided that truck aint loaded. (Bobtail even better but it cannot be loaded) run it off duty to a truckstop then stay there until get hours back.

Computers that squeal on you making a move for a truckstop not accepting that you are out of hours etc are going to have to be worked on. Best solution to being out of hours is to go a team. Very hard to stop a team. (And we have been stopped a few times as a team... when you run hard enough...)

I can recall a situation where I told a customer enough is enough. My company will send someone else via bobtail to this trailer and finish it. (That situation was more of a medical emergency rather than a HOS problem which was burnt long before delivery) It only took three days but company did send another bobtail. It would be about 10 days at home before I was back on the road etc.

I don't know why it needed three days to bobtail someone 3 hours down the interstate to that trailer. Out of 220 people actively driving you would think they will find someone in the drivers room soon enough. But they did not work that way in those days.

 

Take the violation and make a note.

If you use 65 of your 70 hours but went over your 14 by 20 minutes one day because of a shipper delay, they're not likely to bring the hammer down. Especially if it only happens once every 3 months.

On the other hand, if you show an 80 hour week with 10 hours of line 5 but only 2 hours of line 4, they'll be able to figure out pretty quick that something ain't right.

 

Thanks,
That true, line 1 off duty (driving) was allowed when using personal conveyance to move the truck without triggering on duty driving. Sometimes called line 5 back in the day.

What is personal conveyance?

 

Now that I think about it, when it mentioned sending Qualcomm messages explaining HOS violations due to shipper delay, I seem to recall the companies were adding the explanations to the log, so if you get inspected and the DOT looks at your logs, your explanation of why you got the violation will actually appear on the log itself.