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When to approve and send elogs

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by supersnackbar, Oct 25, 2017.

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  1. Oct 25, 2017 #1
    supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    I've been on elogs for years. Every company before this one had their system set up to automatically transmit your logs after you approved them as accurate and correct. This company does not. And...they are saying that logs MUST be sent in daily per DOT regs. I know in the old days on paper, you had 13 days to send your paper logs to the company (or drop them at their office). I have done several searches, but have yet to come up with any regulation that says I have any different time constraints on getting my elogs to the office like this place claims. Does anyone know of any regulation pertaining to elogs delivery that is different than paper?
     
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  3. Oct 25, 2017 #2
    Gunner75

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    I was always told to approve daily. I do know that if I don't approve them within a week I get a notice on my qualcomm screen that I need to approve my logs
     
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  4. Oct 25, 2017 #3
    STexan

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    Should do it at end of every day. You get audited at a scale, you can get busted for having unapproved days prior to the current day.
     
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  5. Oct 25, 2017 #4
    scottied67

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    I have heard that too when I was at SWIFT they claimed we could be in violation for unapproved yesterday's logs. They wanted us to approve our logs after every single change of duty status. If the system didn't detect log approval after midnight we'd get automatic reminder messages.

    But to me, hitting Approve is the same as scanning in your old paper logs once a week. I would also like to see a regulation requiring log approval sooner than 13 days.
     
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  7. Oct 25, 2017 #5
    Ridgeline

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    You approve it daily when you close out the day on the log, this has not changed and won't.
     
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  8. Oct 25, 2017 #6
    scottied67

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    OK that does make sense
     
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  9. Oct 25, 2017 #7
    supersnackbar

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    I guess "approving" on elogs is like a digital signature, so I could see where that makes sense. It would be like having paper logs filled out for days, without a signature
     
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  10. Oct 25, 2017 #8
    tucker

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    Can you provide a link to that regulation?
     
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  11. Oct 25, 2017 #9
    ZVar

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    Aobr is actually 13 days to approve the log. Here is the link. eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations

    It's under 395.15(h).

    As for eld's it's "immediately after the final required entry is made" for that 24 hour period.
    Same link as above, but part 395.30(b)(2)
     
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  12. Oct 25, 2017 #10
    Studebaker Hawk

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    The JJ Keller ELD has a function for sending in approved logs, but no reminders to do it. In the DOT officer read only function there is no way for him to determine whether or not it has been done, short of calling the carrier.
     
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