11 Michigan men charged in major U.S. diesel engine tampering case

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Tarh331_Dad, Apr 28, 2023.

  1. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    You said, “I can't understand why folks try to bypass the system as opposed to just learning how those trucks work”, and what you said needs clarification. Let’s clarify.

    If Mr Fox was a professional athlete and was told that he has to perform his sport with a filtered breathing apparatus on his face and a check ball in the line, which supposedly is “good for the environment” because it limits the amount of oxygen intake. Mr Fox is of the mindset that removing the check ball from the line would allow him to breath so much easier and perform much better. Are you saying that Mr Fox needs to learn play his sport better or how to breathe through the apparatus?

    What would the ESPN highlight reel look like if all athletes had to breathe through a straw?
     
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  3. Last Call

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    Could you clarify. Your thoughts maybe give a couole examples of your theory ? Cause I just don't understand how & why they would do that ? ..what do the stand to gain by dping that ?
    The EPA is the ones that set the standards for the emissons & the engine manufacturers have been forced to try their best to comply
    The dealers Select.a engine size and brand when they have a truck built
     
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  4. Ridgeline

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    There is a problem with an all ev fleet nation wide, oil.

    we can’t stop producing it, we need it for everything from ev production to medical supplies to food production and retail related products.

    with a glut of gas and diesel from a decline in usage thanks to the ev, what are we going to do with the gas and diesel?
     
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  5. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Laws, Regulations, it’s all the same thing, pay us X amount of dollars and it’ll go away.
    Maybe if it’s bad enough offensive, pay this much AND go to jail/prison just to be sure you’ve learned your lesson AND to instill fear into others, so they won’t break the same law or regulation.
     
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  6. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Export it to countries with zero regulation for vehicles to use dpf, scr, cat converters, etc.
     
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  7. Siinman

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    Maybe it is not the dealers actually doing it but allowing the sales people they hire spec trucks that they sale on the lot. Knowing most these sales guys have old school thinking on how to spec a truck. They have never really pushed to educate the sales people until lately and that has been a half axx attempt at best in my opinion. Of course this is more about when they spec'd trucks before Covid became a thing. Now most people are spec'ing the trucks and have no one else to blame. Since everything is a lead time on ordering and you can change any spec if need be.
     
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    When this story broke, I thought, got to be something on TTR. Big deal, fleets and O/Os been cheating for years, these guys just got caught. Remember the crimped fuel return lines? I wonder what pissed off driver tipped off the feds?
    Okay, so they socked these guys with almost 2 MILLION bucks in fines. Where, in the HELL, is that going? We apparently live in a time period, where no amount of money is enough.
     
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  9. OLDSKOOLERnWV

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    Lol, you woke a memory in my mind…

    Around 1991 I was driving a 1988 Cabover Kenworth, 365 Cummins / 9 speed. We had some Cat powered trucks as well, but all the trucks were castrated and would only run 65 mph.

    Crimping that fuel return on a old Cummins is something that will gain a little power on the uphill pull, just no extra speed. But… you have to adjust that crimp as you well know I’m sure to get the best results. I always adjusted it initially to where I could hear the idle rpm rise slightly then back it off a hair, then drive it and adjust from there.

    Guy known as Underdog drove a 1 of the Pete’s with a castrated Cat.

    We had been up in Johnstown, PA loading tubs for coal cars, there was 4 of us running together that day.

    We were rolling down I-79 through WV when I eased around Underdog and slowly walked away from him. Needless to say he had questions.

    Next oil change on the truck Tim who was a wrench and a friend still to this day, told me… Jim, I found a nice set of vice grips in the frame rail of your truck, he laughed and said sorry but I had to remove it.

    Turns out that Underdog was complaining that I walked away from him with the same trailer and same weight load lol.

    If the trucks had 13 spd in them the company had a 9 spd shift knob on them, keep the truck at 65 mph. Many drivers carried a 13 spd knob in their belongings, get out of town and switch the knob and roll on, things have sure changed…..
     
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  10. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Don't do the crime if'n you can't do the time.
     
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  11. mitmaks

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    #### the government
     
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