A preventable "incident" on my PSP....

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  1. Odin's Rabid Dog

    Odin's Rabid Dog Heavy Load Member

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    I didn't interpret any of it as people sticking up for the company. What I see is drivers calling out another for not taking responsibility for his own preventable screw up. And it was preventable.
     
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  3. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    and are you a company driver?

    if so, if YOU cause damage, then you deserve what they do to you.

    RESPECT for others and the equipment go a long way.

    if YOU owned one truck or 30 trucks and someone screw up YOUR equipment, would you pat them on the back and say, "no problem my good man, i got the money, i can fix your screw up"

    or would you say, "sorry, but i can't use you anymore, good luck"

    then when YOU get a call for a reference what will you say to the new employer?

    "oh he was the greatest, bestest driver i ever had"

    "then why did you fire him"?

    "well cuz he sideswiped another tractor-trailer, did $4,000 worth of damages, but i didn't DAC him"

    wouldn't any of that be just as bad as the crony capitalist POS companies?
     
  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    The same ones that hire drivers that tear up equipment and refuse to take responsibility that they they did, in fact screw up.
     
  5. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Green book says you have to be satisfied with the safe operation of your equipment before committing it to the public roads. Once you take that responsibility of driving on the roads you own the outcome of your actions.
     
  6. Odin's Rabid Dog

    Odin's Rabid Dog Heavy Load Member

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    Exactly. This ain't rocket science.
     
  7. Dave1837

    Dave1837 Road Train Member

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    It takes a while to burn through even 2/32 of tread, and I'm sure yours were way beyond that. Correct me if I'm wrong but a pre trip involves you actually visually checking your brakes right? Anyone can see the gap between the brake shoes and the drum when they're released. If there's no gap, then that probably means those wheels will not turn. Definitely a preventable issue...
     
  8. kylefitzy

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    My company won’t fire you for doing something stupid, but they will charge a “stupid tax”. Those tires are coming out of your safety bonus. We are all adults and should take responsibility for our actions.
     
  9. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

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    That’s fair. I didn’t say he wasn’t a ####### for not checking his brakes. Or that it wasn’t preventable. I find the whole DAC fiasco to be disgusting, it’s a shame hireright has not went bankrupt.
    Make him pay for the tires and call it square.
    Any other job I’ve worked at if you broke something you fixed it or paid for it and all was well. I dropped a claw hammer and cracked a marble counter top.
    I didn’t get fired, but I did get to buy a new slab and install it.
     
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  10. MGE Dawn

    MGE Dawn Road Train Member

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    Frozen brakes is one of those things that's EXTREMELY easy to spot if you, oh, I don't know, ACTUALLY DO A PRETRIP. And EXTREMELY easy to remedy, too: either use a hammer to percussively break up the ice, use a propane torch to melt the ice, or burn up a LOT of air shifting back and forth between drive and reverse to rock the brakes until they break loose on their own. If the lot is icy, option 3 isn't viable unless you also have some sand, salt or kitty litter to create traction with, though.

    End of the day, the DOT recognizes 2 causes of an incident: driver failure, and equipment failure. They also hold the belief that most forms of equipment failure are also driver failure because the warning signs or even the failure itself can be spotted during a thorough pretrip. Food for thought, guy. That incident will eventually drop off your record; in the meantime, use it as a learning experience
     
  11. Kyle G.

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    Well where is the OP? I am dying to know what that lawyer said.
     
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