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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Scalemaster, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    That’s what I was going to say. A large percentage of people became truck drivers because of the money. Who submits their lifestyle to OTR trucking and not do it for the money? Very few.
     
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  3. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    I was NOT being a Jerk, And Im not going to get in an argument either- I Told you to Message me privately AND more importantly, I Needed to know the Vital information on what you did from start to Finish So I could Help you- YOU NEVER RESPONDED, So I said Screw it...Never Again.

    Oh Bye the way- I Know a lot of people in this Biz- And Could have Helped you out- At Least Gotten you paid Accordingly for the work you did, No hard feelings............

    You Never Replied Back.. So,Im Not Mad at you- Just not helping you anymore- And If you truly Don't want to do this- No sense in hangin' around- Life too short.
     
  4. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    And the world will continue on.
     
  5. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    OK. Politics aside and focusing on technicalities. There were some posts indicating that turning the key on and off while in sleeper, as stupid as it sounds, may not be as innocent as it we think it should be.
    Well, I am not sure what I should do in order to contest it, other than keep doing what I have been doing so far, which is to start the truck whenever I feel like it and as I please.
    I just hope that DOT officials are not dumb to the point of enforcing us to log whenever we start the truck in order to heat up a dish of soup in the microwave or simply get some AC when it gets too hot. They must realize that staying for 8 hours straight in the cabin may not be even possible. For instance, such trivial things as the fact that people have to go to poop or go out there to stretch legs.
    Luckily, I have not heard anything about such actions yet.
    However, If I am ever confronted with this or given some hard time at a scale somewhere then I'll sure post it here. If it ever comes to this that they, indeed, would start screwing people on such technicalities, like that DOT official in Butte, MT then it will be the last straw.

    And yes when I listen to myself talking about this stuff, it is very, very deplorable that I even ask such questions. But the questions are real.
     
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  6. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    If you’re ever cited for something like that make sure to request a citation so you can fight it. Otherwise, a violation with no citation cannot be fought according to TVC and RoadLaw.
     
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  7. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    You know...it is all in theory, this discussion and I may act a clown role here to make my point.
    I used to cheat a lot on paper and I could go as far as to say that most of my paper logs were edited and corrected multiple times during a day, not to say falsified. I was pulled over many times and many times was confronted with the contents of my logbooks, especially in Iowa and Arizona they were trying hard to find something in my logs to screw me up. They were calling shippers, receivers, fuel desks, my dispatch...and for what? Just to screw me up for the f ... of it.
    Now, I am afraid that with the ELDs and the output file, the have it all on a silver platter.
     
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  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I would love to know @Moose1958 's opinion on your post here.

    One solution would be to say you opened up the sleeper door or just the window, (if you had one) and spoke to the tech that way.

    The unwritten intent of the 8 hours in the sleeper is that the government doesn't want us to split our breaks that way. So they made an (nearly) impossible requirement to spend a solid 8 hours locked up in a sleeper. I wouldn't lock a dog in a kennel for 8 hours, how does anyone expect a human being to endure that?

    That said, I've noticed a trend where most loads are being scheduled as JIT (Just In Time) where the driver must 8/2 split for the 3 day haul to save the three 30 minute breaks for on time delivery.
     
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  9. O.Henry

    O.Henry Medium Load Member

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    I use a microwave,and have to start the truck in order for the inverter to work properly without killing my batteries.
    Gotta eat!
     
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  10. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I found the FMCSA guidance, and it’s good news.

    Question 5: Do telephone calls to or from the motor carrier that momentarily interrupt a driver’s rest period constitute a change of the driver’s duty status?

    Guidance: Telephone calls of this type do not prevent the driver from obtaining adequate rest. Therefore, the FHWA does not consider these brief telephone calls to be a break in the driver’s off duty status.

    And here’s another one related to receiving messages from your company.

    Question 6: If a driver is required by a motor carrier to carry a pager/beeper to receive notification to contact the motor carrier for a duty assignment, how should this time be recorded?

    Guidance: The time is to be recorded as off-duty.

    Regulations Section
     
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  11. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    It is good info.
    The most important part is "...do not prevent adequate rest".
     
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