Just rehired with a large carrier I drove for from 2013 to 2015. They put ELD's in all their trucks a couple years ago. Last night as I was nearing the end of a 2-hour split (to gain a fresh hour on my 14) I let the truck crawl about 100 yards in a retail lot on line 2. This was all well below 5 mph...stayed in 1st gear the whole time. During the 1:59th minute of the split I came to a stop, set the brake, then watched for the "status" tab to change in the HOS section of the ELD. As soon as the 2:00th minute of the split was completed, voila, the status tab showed me having 1:06 available on my 14 and 2:07 available on my 11 (the 8 was obviously no issue and neither was the 70 since I just rehired).
Before I resigned in June 2015, seeing those numbers meant I was in the clear and good to go. But shortly after I got going---it was only about ten seconds---I saw that big beautiful "1:06" on the unit suddenly change back to something really ugly like "-0:29" causing a logging violation.
Can someone please explain what happened and where I can look up information about this subject? I talked with a safety guy this morning and he said it has something to do with some FMCSA mandate about "trip triggers" that went into effect in December 2015. He also said that two logging violations were recorded instead of just one.
No wonder OOIDA is fighting so hard against mandatory ELD's. They are evidently worse than ever now.
ELD question about "trip triggers"
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mathematrucker, Aug 4, 2016.
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It's because u didn't manually change status to line 4. Once it ended u suppose to go to on duty , pretrip. But since u droved, it save that instead.
Doesn't matter if u let the tires roll 1mph, once the tires move, it records it and after 5 minutes, it saves it unless you manually change it.
Also why couldn't u just wait? It was only 2 hours... -
On my rig you have to pull the brake AND turn off the engine otherwise the e-log will go back to when the tires started rolling.
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Tell me more. Dear Jedi..... Ive much to learn LOL.
Shoot, don'tcha hate it when a plan is foiled? Hire Pinky and the Brain to work them things...
What about a coincidential fuse failure at the harness responsible for wheel rotation sensors? -
When you moved the truck the clock did not start, but! The Gps recorded the last fixed position. When you started rolling....the computer checked last known Gps and saw that you cant be two places at the same time. Every little detail has already been calculated to catch you.....best know, a split sleeper break provision must keep the vehicle stationary.
In this case it seemed you should kept going until the clock ran out and forced you to do a full ten to reset the 11/14x1Heavy Thanks this. -
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I did the same thing the other day, 27 minutes started moving out. Got up to speed on the freeway look down the ELD is showing 2:20 left to drive, perfect, only need to get 98 miles down the road. Few moments later look down is it is showing 1:02 or something. Pull over real quick and it is showing 4 minutes of drive time 27 minutes off duty. Quickly change it back to off duty and it shows 31 minutes off duty now so manually change it to Drive and quickly go to the other screen to Approve the 31 minutes so they (whoever they is) cannot take it away from me.
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I always wait for an additional minute before i release the brakes. We were told that once the brakes are released on the truck that is when your log will start recording.
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They are all different in how they behave. Depends on the ELD system, how it is provisioned, and I also think depends on the year/make of truck as far as what the two will communicate with each other.
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Qualcomm changed the program a year or two back so that there is no longer the 2 mile distance one can roll before it kicks onto line 3.
Essentially as stated previously, you either have to shut the engine off, or switch it manually.x1Heavy Thanks this.
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