legalto get kicked off a property that didn't post signs about truck parking when ELOG hasn't hours?

Agreed, but it will take time, time, time. Not gonna see any serious adjustment from customers come the end of the year.

 

Not only that drivers are still going to have to be willing to stand up for themselves and drive off and find a place for the night if their clock is going to get burnt.
Otherwise both shippers & receivers will basically continue their S O P.

 

The ELD had plenty of hours, the driver didn't have any and parked where he/she should not have. Instead of blaming the HOS, or trip planning, it is easier to blame an electronic device that could care less.

 

Couldn't agree more.
Although I doubt that shippers and receivers will make ANY accommodation for the HOS and I am talking EVER!
The only way that this is going to work is if EVERYBODY is held responsible.
The HOS should encompass everybody involved. It should be a federal offense for a Walmart, for example, to turf a driver who has had his clock run out by THEM off their property.
This stuff about trip planning is largely baloney. Too many variables, too many wildcards.
However I must say I rarely have a problem. I have a couple of solutions but here is an important one. I use 2 GPSs.
Rand McNally and Delorme.
Why Delorme and what is that anyway?
Delorme is an off the shelf rubbish software sold in Office Depot. It is mostly inaccurate however its redeeming quality is that I can annotate the snot out of it.
I have got parking places, truck stops, places to get water, supermarkets and a bunch of other stuff marked up. Over the years I have built up so many symbols on that thing that when you zoom it out it looks like a pincushion. Rarely have trouble parking in any state.

 

I personally tend to be supportive of e logs, mostly because that is what I have the most experience with. I did paper logs at my last job, but that was a yard jockey job with set hours, so that doesn't really count. But I can see how an older driver who has used paper his whole life, would have difficulties getting accustomed to e logs. We can argue about the new regulations all day and night, but only time will tell the effectiveness of it. All I can say is, it will be very interesting.

 

It's easy, you don't even need the cone, just turn your 4-ways on and you are good to go.

 

Thats too much work. It means I would have had to make sure the lights work by doing a pretrip in the past week or so. Who has time for that?

 

I agree that the current HOS rules cause situations that make one drive tired. Its not the ELD that is the problem, it is the HOS rules as your own comments reflect so why blame ELD's for them.

All the time and money spent by OOIDA and others fighting the ELD mandate would have been better put to use fighting for revisions in the HOS rules that would address the real issues.

 

Yup. I hear about eld exemptions for certain industries, such as livestock, and that's the wrong approach to take. If they need an exemption, it should be to the rules, not to the enforcement mechanism.