Road Runner LP - Is this a Joke?

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by EatYourVeggies, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. EatYourVeggies

    EatYourVeggies Light Load Member

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    • truck $799 per week (you can only lease purchase new trucks)
    • trailer pool $210 per week
    • plates/permits $50 per week
    • insurance $20 per week
    • occupational accident insurance $44 per week (rounded up)
    • atbs $20 per week (rounded down)
    • IFTA - they won't say
    • NTL insurance $10 per week
    This does NOT include truck insurance.

    Average pay $1 to $1.40 per mile

    Are you fxxxing kidding me?!
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    It's no joke driver. Now I want you to get up on that chair and stick your head through that noose.
    Go to Prime thread and ask what they pay weekly, go Schneider too.
    I saw one of their advocates looking for a team driver cause it's so good he wants to share the joy.
     
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  4. EatYourVeggies

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    When I started asking the recruiter questions about the numbers, he suddenly stopped communications with me.

    Guess the scumbag would rather spend his time trying to reel in drivers who don't know how to use their brains.
     
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  5. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Dude save your money. Buy a used truck, then lease on with someone. It is the best way. That way your not at anyone's mercy.
    Any place you go where the people that hold the note on your truck, are the ones assigning you freight, your gonna get bent over. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. But you will take it, or you will lose the money you have in the truck.
    Just save your money and get a used truck and you'll live happily ever after.
     
  6. mhyn

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    sharing the joy <----- cool said ! ))))
     
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  7. EatYourVeggies

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    One more thing for anyone foolish enough to give Road Runner LP a shot. The recruiters I spoke with have initials MP and AL. They're both lying scumbags.

    Stay away!
     
  8. MOGLAR

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    Any LP is a joke! This is nothing but a modern version of share cropping for drivers. I would rather pour jet fuel on my head....light it on fire...then beat it out with a 10 pound sledge hammer than do a "fleece purchase."

    The issue is drivers get all giddy like a teenager when you wave a shiny truck in front of them in one hand....and LP documents in the other. The devil is in the details! First and fore most you have absolutely NO RIGHTS TO THE TRUCK WHAT SO EVER! NONE! ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! Do you know why? Because the truck is not yours! You dont even have a title with them listed as a lien holder! Scribbling on a company document does not give you any rights to the truck. You are paying for all the maintenance on a truck for them!

    The way they push lease purchases on drivers is the envy of every TV infomercial. Speaking of that many lease purchase driven company's literally have the sales pitch down to a science to try an convince you that you own your own trucking company. I literally have to keep myself from vomiting in my own mouth when I see this happen to a driver.

    Lets take an objective view of the behind the scenes manipulation of how they convince the drivers to actually fall for this scam. Let me set the scene for you first. Ever been to a carnival that has all those cool fairway games you can play to win a big stuffed animal? You will most likely see someone win and walk off with a hulking teddy bear. This person is a Schill that was supposed to win so others will see him. Usually the schill is a deliberate plant or chosen at random to win. In any event all the other people see the win and scamper up to the carnival game to try their luck convinced they could do it too....but fail. As do all the others fail. But from time to time there will be a few winners to give the others hope of success. Get the point. Fleece purchases are no different and employ they same strategy. Just like a progressive jack pot at a casino. Many will play....few will win. This "dangling" the bait at the end of a hook is the hallmark of the fleece purchase.

    Wow Moglar you are a troll and have no idea what you are talking about. Well I do. I live in Missouri and have long known friends that are involved in an upper management level with the nuts and bolts of fleece purchases. I will leave it at that without divulging the carrier.

    One of the main tactics is to give the LP driver the illusion that he/she is in charge. This is not the case. "But I can pick my own loads like a real owner operator." Yes and No. You only see what they want you to pull. Many other trucks in the area see the same loads. It will get covered whether you pull it or not. In other words.....loads you see are actually chosen/selected for you to see by someone else. You dont see them all. The loads are cherry picked. The schills will unknowingly see the pick of the litter giving them the illusion that they are doing such a wonderful job and making decisions.

    What I am trying to say is you have NO control. Its designed to make you think you actually run something....but you dont. How do we keep this fleece monster fed? Out of a certain number or drivers only "x" amount will get the trucks. The drivers that get the trucks can go out and tell others how great and wonderful fleece purchase is and how hard they worked. The company will get on their soap boxes and herald the success of the new truck owner and even put his face on trucking magazines and advertisements showing how delighted the driver is. I am not going to go into a whole diatribe on how much money the carriers make off the fleece purchases.....I will tell you its HUGE! That will require a much longer post to show the math behind the fleece and the services etc etc. Its a mountain of money.

    I am just sorry I didnt invent the fleece purchase myself....I would of been sitting on Fiji by now enjoying umbrella drinks while raking in the cash.

    There is no short cut to success or running a business. As Kevin Rutherford would say "you must be willing to do the hard work."

    Take care.
     
  9. stayinback

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    Excellent Post ^^^
     
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  10. blairandgretchen

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    Man - you ain't nothing but a lease purchase hater.

    If you actually read the first post - the OP CLEARLY states that he is ASTOUNDED by the HUGE amount of money to be made! It says it right in the title! "IS THIS A JOKE?"

    I don't know about you guys, but I'm asking that the mods delete this thread quickly and for two good reasons - 1- I don't need any competition snagging this great opportunity before I do, and - 2- The obvious negative propaganda you lease purchase haters are proliferating.

    I did some research and found that you - sir - Mr . . . . @MOGLAR are dead wrong! Various publications and recruitment magazines show smiling people in front of their trucks. That right there is solid evidence they are happy and successful.

    Finally, I can sell my junky old cash truck and trailer and get into a nice new ride and make out like a bandit.
     
  11. Tdgraham

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    Yes i have a girl i know leasing on road runner running reefer she brings home over 2k a week n home during week n weekends hauling refer dedicated. She has a 2016 volvo it will be paid off in 1 year and half payin 800 sonething a week
     
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