Snackbar is chillin'....at Shaffer

drvrtech77 · Jan 23, 2022

Lonesome said: ↑

Lazy incompetent people keep jobs for the simple fact that no one want's to replace them. Companies feel that a lazy incompetent worker is better than no worker at all.
Where I used to work, I hear they took away the attendance points system, where if you missed so many days in a certain time period, you were fired. They figure someone who shows up 3 days a week is better than not having an employee at all. And I don't see that changing any time soon.
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Problem is..welcome to America home of the lazy and incompetent…unfortunately it doesn’t appear to be getting better especially with this younger generation coming out..it’s just not trucking…if people would simply use more common sense than read off a computer screen like a robot, society might get better but I’m not holding my breath…sad state of affairs anymore..

supersnackbar · Jan 23, 2022

drvrtech77 said: ↑

Do they have issues??..sure no company is perfect…let me know when you find one..a lot of the issues you have seem to be repetitive issues no matter where you work and what i mean by that is welcome to America where common sense doesn’t exist anymore in the work place and it don’t look like its getting any better either..as long as the $$ isn’t affected you should relax…as far as their equipment…welcome to America where everyone wants cheap stuff quick…when it comes to vehicles its a crap shoot & I don’t care what brand it is you could end up with a lemon or truck that never has issues..
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My money is effected... When I have a government mandated 14 hour limit, and these problems burn that up, it has a negative effect on my productivity. And I seem to have more of those problems here than any other company except Big G...and Shaffer is a close 2nd to them (and a close 2nd on equipment problems to Poly)

Case in point. I am delivering, or should I say attempting to deliver a half a trailer of ice cream packaging to the Sikeston plant. They don't receive this at the plant, they redirected me to an alternate warehouse south of town. I get to the warehouse and nobody is there. But there is a phone number on the door to call...which is constantly busy, so I call the number on the directions they provided...and it rings so long that it just stops ringing. And I am on anothet load that I have to pick up before noon today that has to deliver by 10 am tomorrow. This is a typical load for me here....1 load in 5 or 6 goes without an issue that costs me productivity. I have NEVER worked for a company with that kind of track record.

Frank Speak · Jan 23, 2022

gentleroger said: ↑

Yes, yes you can.

$5 wine will mess you up, $15 wine will leave you disappointed, $25-50 wine is pretty darn good, but once you get over $100 there are diminishing returns and over $1,000 you're just burning money.
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Tequila is the same way. I had a shot of $6500 tequila a couple of years ago. Was it good? Absolutely! But I didn’t like anymore than the $135 (Don Julio 1942) tequila that I like.

MACK E-6 · Jan 23, 2022

Frank Speak said: ↑

Tequila is the same way. I had a shot of $6500 tequila a couple of years ago. Was it good? Absolutely! But I didn’t like anymore than the $135 (Don Julio 1942) tequila that I like.
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Are you trying to say you now prefer Mexicans to Kentuckians?

Winnyf1 · Jan 23, 2022

MACK E-6 said: ↑

Alright, for the people who seem to think only SSB has bad days, let me tell you all how Friday went for me.

All last week I got hammered with 18-23 stops on the wagon, except for Friday when I only had 13. I thought “oh good, I’ll have an easy day on today so I can get a good early start on tomorrow’s run”. Well, it didn’t work that way.

I took one look in the trailer when I loaded my pallet jack, saw the box spring mattresses stacked to the ceiling, and thought “great, more garbage freight to unload by hand”, but that wasn’t even half of it.

The first two were quick, so that was good. Next was a plumbing supply house getting a 7’ pallet of shower doors. They were closed for inventory. It would’ve been nice if someone told me when I was there Thursday, AND we had an “appointment” somehow for this crap that I’m pretty well sure was fake, due to lazy chair warming millennials who can’t be bothered to do the jobs they’re paid for. This is a problem because I only have 2 skid spots worth of room to work.

I got to the county jail to deliver their weekly skid of commissary crap, ran in the front door to wave to the ladies at the front desk, my usually way of saying “hey, you have a delivery going around to the back gate” so they can call the guards and have one meet me and let me in. The one sitting there I suppose forgot to call, so the maintenance guys had to do it when one came out for a smoke break. That wound up taking 45 mins as opposed to the usual 10.

After that I had to leave the shower door crate at a landscape company that shares an outdoor dock with a tile place because I needed the room to work. Then, I had to skip down to what was like stop 10 or so, a normal sized pallet of HVAC parts for another supply house, and deliver that since it was loaded out of order due to dockworker stupidity.

It was now time to deliver the mattress garbage. I got to the place, and nobody there. Gee, this just keeps getting better, so I made a phone call and found out they wanted a call ahead. Well, that’s just great now that I’m already here. “I’ll be there in 45 mins”. Ok, whatever, nothing I can do about that now. So as I’m manhandling this junk off my trailer while waiting, I find obvious evidence that the boxed were bulldozed down the dock with a forklift, because one box looked like it’s been shot at. That one wound up getting refused, obviously. I go to call in the damage, (@Gearjammin' Penguin knows what I’m talking about here) and can’t do that because now only the TM takes those and he’s out to lunch. That exception never got entered, and to add insult to injury, I found more of this junk on the dock when I got back so I get to deal with it again Monday.

Now I’m 2 hours behind schedule, and the next stop is the reason why YOU DONT LOAD #### OUT OF ORDER, a communications place that gets big spools of wire. These were 6’ in diameter and there were 4 of them, 2500 lbs each. You can’t have stuff in the way when you’re trying to wrestle anything this big.

Later I had a house delivery. They had to come out to the street and get it with a pickup truck, and not surprisingly it was damaged too. That was another OS&D call that couldn’t get done.

Next I did a pickup at an apartment complex which I was dreading, and fortunately the lady in the office not only knew what a BOL was but actually had one. 20 years of doing this has made me VERY cynical when it comes to pickups at non-regular shippers, because engine and transmission cores are always a roll of the dice. Why? That would be because of lazy and stupid people at the receiving ends of these boat snchors who can’t be bother to interrupt their InstaTwitFace surfing and send BOLs in a timely manner.

Last stop was another apartment complex getting Home Depot garbage, which is another #### account I wish they’d drop like a bomb on Dresden. Now normally I’d just leave that, but the office is closed Fridays and this isn’t in a nice neighborhood. Thankfully that skid was in the nose, so I had every intention of taking it back anyway.

After that, it was back to load the shower door crate I left, get a second pickup, and go home.

Yeah, Friday I was @gentleroger ’s “angry driver”. People get tired of having their days complicated and trashed for no other reason than laziness on the part of some doofus who’s age and intelligence quotient happen to be the same number and need to be tossed out on their butts. When did all this “compassion to the useless” BS come about? As far as I’m concerned, if you’re paid to do a job and you suck at it you need to leave and find another, and years ago that’s exactly what would’ve happened.
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Lol, after reading this I’m going to stop complaining about winter tarpping

motocross25 · Jan 23, 2022

MACK E-6 said: ↑

Alright, for the people who seem to think only SSB has bad days, let me tell you all how Friday went for me.

All last week I got hammered with 18-23 stops on the wagon, except for Friday when I only had 13. I thought “oh good, I’ll have an easy day on today so I can get a good early start on tomorrow’s run”. Well, it didn’t work that way.

I took one look in the trailer when I loaded my pallet jack, saw the box spring mattresses stacked to the ceiling, and thought “great, more garbage freight to unload by hand”, but that wasn’t even half of it.

The first two were quick, so that was good. Next was a plumbing supply house getting a 7’ pallet of shower doors. They were closed for inventory. It would’ve been nice if someone told me when I was there Thursday, AND we had an “appointment” somehow for this crap that I’m pretty well sure was fake, due to lazy chair warming millennials who can’t be bothered to do the jobs they’re paid for. This is a problem because I only have 2 skid spots worth of room to work.

I got to the county jail to deliver their weekly skid of commissary crap, ran in the front door to wave to the ladies at the front desk, my usually way of saying “hey, you have a delivery going around to the back gate” so they can call the guards and have one meet me and let me in. The one sitting there I suppose forgot to call, so the maintenance guys had to do it when one came out for a smoke break. That wound up taking 45 mins as opposed to the usual 10.

After that I had to leave the shower door crate at a landscape company that shares an outdoor dock with a tile place because I needed the room to work. Then, I had to skip down to what was like stop 10 or so, a normal sized pallet of HVAC parts for another supply house, and deliver that since it was loaded out of order due to dockworker stupidity.

It was now time to deliver the mattress garbage. I got to the place, and nobody there. Gee, this just keeps getting better, so I made a phone call and found out they wanted a call ahead. Well, that’s just great now that I’m already here. “I’ll be there in 45 mins”. Ok, whatever, nothing I can do about that now. So as I’m manhandling this junk off my trailer while waiting, I find obvious evidence that the boxed were bulldozed down the dock with a forklift, because one box looked like it’s been shot at. That one wound up getting refused, obviously. I go to call in the damage, (@Gearjammin' Penguin knows what I’m talking about here) and can’t do that because now only the TM takes those and he’s out to lunch. That exception never got entered, and to add insult to injury, I found more of this junk on the dock when I got back so I get to deal with it again Monday.

Now I’m 2 hours behind schedule, and the next stop is the reason why YOU DONT LOAD #### OUT OF ORDER, a communications place that gets big spools of wire. These were 6’ in diameter and there were 4 of them, 2500 lbs each. You can’t have stuff in the way when you’re trying to wrestle anything this big.

Later I had a house delivery. They had to come out to the street and get it with a pickup truck, and not surprisingly it was damaged too. That was another OS&D call that couldn’t get done.

Next I did a pickup at an apartment complex which I was dreading, and fortunately the lady in the office not only knew what a BOL was but actually had one. 20 years of doing this has made me VERY cynical when it comes to pickups at non-regular shippers, because engine and transmission cores are always a roll of the dice. Why? That would be because of lazy and stupid people at the receiving ends of these boat snchors who can’t be bother to interrupt their InstaTwitFace surfing and send BOLs in a timely manner.

Last stop was another apartment complex getting Home Depot garbage, which is another #### account I wish they’d drop like a bomb on Dresden. Now normally I’d just leave that, but the office is closed Fridays and this isn’t in a nice neighborhood. Thankfully that skid was in the nose, so I had every intention of taking it back anyway.

After that, it was back to load the shower door crate I left, get a second pickup, and go home.

Yeah, Friday I was @gentleroger ’s “angry driver”. People get tired of having their days complicated and trashed for no other reason than laziness on the part of some doofus who’s age and intelligence quotient happen to be the same number and need to be tossed out on their butts. When did all this “compassion to the useless” BS come about? As far as I’m concerned, if you’re paid to do a job and you suck at it you need to leave and find another, and years ago that’s exactly what would’ve happened.
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Reading this has jogged my memory on how much I do not miss LTL P&D work. Wow. That’s a heckuva day. Just to touch on one of the topics you mentioned, I’m not sure if anything made me more upset than fake appointments. This was a CONSTANT struggle at my barn. We had 3 chicks in the office as customer service and appointment clerks, all in their early 20’s, all friends, and the last thing they could be bothered with at work was their job. Fake appointments all day everyday. The worst were residential or like the companies that just have a suite in an industrial complex but are never there. “Hey I’m here/on my way”
“What? No one told me I had anything coming.. ok I try to get there it’ll be about an hour”. Which always turns into 2, and then they have no means of getting it unloaded. So it’d get brought back to get assigned to a lift gate only to go thru the whole thing again in 2 days. And it was always something I couldn’t move or work around. Like a giant swing set or some big farm implement banded to like 3 pallets. You are a more patient man than I, kudos to you.

MACK E-6 · Jan 23, 2022

motocross25 said: ↑

Just to touch on one of the topics you mentioned, I’m not sure if anything made me more upset than fake appointments. This was a CONSTANT struggle at my barn. We had 3 chicks in the office as customer service and appointment clerks, all in their early 20’s, all friends, and the last thing they could be bothered with at work was their job. Fake appointments all day everyday. The worst were residential or like the companies that just have a suite in an industrial complex but are never there. “Hey I’m here/on my way”
“What? No one told me I had anything coming.. ok I try to get there it’ll be about an hour”. Which always turns into 2, and then they have no means of getting it unloaded. So it’d get brought back to get assigned to a lift gate only to go thru the whole thing again in 2 days. And it was always something I couldn’t move or work around. Like a giant swing set or some big farm implement banded to like 3 pallets. You are a more patient man than I, kudos to you.
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Nice to see we aren’t the only ones with that problem.

gentleroger · Jan 23, 2022

MACK E-6 said: ↑

Alright, for the people who seem to think only SSB has bad days, let me tell you all how Friday went for me.

All last week I got hammered with 18-23 stops on the wagon, except for Friday when I only had 13. I thought “oh good, I’ll have an easy day on today so I can get a good early start on tomorrow’s run”. Well, it didn’t work that way.

I took one look in the trailer when I loaded my pallet jack, saw the box spring mattresses stacked to the ceiling, and thought “great, more garbage freight to unload by hand”, but that wasn’t even half of it.

The first two were quick, so that was good. Next was a plumbing supply house getting a 7’ pallet of shower doors. They were closed for inventory. It would’ve been nice if someone told me when I was there Thursday, AND we had an “appointment” somehow for this crap that I’m pretty well sure was fake, due to lazy chair warming millennials who can’t be bothered to do the jobs they’re paid for. This is a problem because I only have 2 skid spots worth of room to work.

I got to the county jail to deliver their weekly skid of commissary crap, ran in the front door to wave to the ladies at the front desk, my usually way of saying “hey, you have a delivery going around to the back gate” so they can call the guards and have one meet me and let me in. The one sitting there I suppose forgot to call, so the maintenance guys had to do it when one came out for a smoke break. That wound up taking 45 mins as opposed to the usual 10.

After that I had to leave the shower door crate at a landscape company that shares an outdoor dock with a tile place because I needed the room to work. Then, I had to skip down to what was like stop 10 or so, a normal sized pallet of HVAC parts for another supply house, and deliver that since it was loaded out of order due to dockworker stupidity.

It was now time to deliver the mattress garbage. I got to the place, and nobody there. Gee, this just keeps getting better, so I made a phone call and found out they wanted a call ahead. Well, that’s just great now that I’m already here. “I’ll be there in 45 mins”. Ok, whatever, nothing I can do about that now. So as I’m manhandling this junk off my trailer while waiting, I find obvious evidence that the boxed were bulldozed down the dock with a forklift, because one box looked like it’s been shot at. That one wound up getting refused, obviously. I go to call in the damage, (@Gearjammin' Penguin knows what I’m talking about here) and can’t do that because now only the TM takes those and he’s out to lunch. That exception never got entered, and to add insult to injury, I found more of this junk on the dock when I got back so I get to deal with it again Monday.

Now I’m 2 hours behind schedule, and the next stop is the reason why YOU DONT LOAD #### OUT OF ORDER, a communications place that gets big spools of wire. These were 6’ in diameter and there were 4 of them, 2500 lbs each. You can’t have stuff in the way when you’re trying to wrestle anything this big.

Later I had a house delivery. They had to come out to the street and get it with a pickup truck, and not surprisingly it was damaged too. That was another OS&D call that couldn’t get done.

Next I did a pickup at an apartment complex which I was dreading, and fortunately the lady in the office not only knew what a BOL was but actually had one. 20 years of doing this has made me VERY cynical when it comes to pickups at non-regular shippers, because engine and transmission cores are always a roll of the dice. Why? That would be because of lazy and stupid people at the receiving ends of these boat snchors who can’t be bother to interrupt their InstaTwitFace surfing and send BOLs in a timely manner.

Last stop was another apartment complex getting Home Depot garbage, which is another #### account I wish they’d drop like a bomb on Dresden. Now normally I’d just leave that, but the office is closed Fridays and this isn’t in a nice neighborhood. Thankfully that skid was in the nose, so I had every intention of taking it back anyway.

After that, it was back to load the shower door crate I left, get a second pickup, and go home.

Yeah, Friday I was @gentleroger ’s “angry driver”. People get tired of having their days complicated and trashed for no other reason than laziness on the part of some doofus who’s age and intelligence quotient happen to be the same number and need to be tossed out on their butts. When did all this “compassion to the useless” BS come about? As far as I’m concerned, if you’re paid to do a job and you suck at it you need to leave and find another, and years ago that’s exactly what would’ve happened.
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You weren't anywhere close to being Angry Driver.

Angry Driver is the guy who doesn't check to see if there is a pallet jack on the trailer and then blames the dock workers when he has to go back to the yard.

Angry Driver is the guy who spends 15 minutes yelling at the secretary for the TM being at lunch when he tried to make the OSD call.

Angry Driver is the guy who doesn't seem to understand that after hours Ops can't reschedule appointments because the customer isn't open, then yells at the poor schmuck on the other end of the phone.

Angry Driver is the guy who constantly takes it on the chin, but refuses to keep his gloves up.

Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug. Everyone has days that other people's screwups become their problem. The question is how do you deal with it? Do you flip your lid and take petty revenge that does nothing but make you feel a little better?

Frank Speak · Jan 23, 2022

MACK E-6 said: ↑

Are you trying to say you now prefer Mexicans to Kentuckians?
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Nah, but Mexicans ain’t bad!

xlsdraw · Jan 23, 2022

gentleroger said: ↑

You weren't anywhere close to being Angry Driver.

Angry Driver is the guy who doesn't check to see if there is a pallet jack on the trailer and then blames the dock workers when he has to go back to the yard.

Angry Driver is the guy who spends 15 minutes yelling at the secretary for the TM being at lunch when he tried to make the OSD call.

Angry Driver is the guy who doesn't seem to understand that after hours Ops can't reschedule appointments because the customer isn't open, then yells at the poor schmuck on the other end of the phone.

Angry Driver is the guy who constantly takes it on the chin, but refuses to keep his gloves up.

Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug. Everyone has days that other people's screwups become their problem. The question is how do you deal with it? Do you flip your lid and take petty revenge that does nothing but make you feel a little better?
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SSB isn't Angry Driver.

He's Frustrated Driver.

Big difference.

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