Taking the plunge. My journey as an O/O.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Farmerbob1, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    How can you be good with them keeping what they have no right to keep? Certain charges should ALWAYS be passed 100% to the truck owner. Fsc is one of them.
     
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  3. Broke Down 69

    Broke Down 69 Road Train Member

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    Amen. Funny thing is, this cat's saying he's pulling in $1.14 FSC. That's just beyond credible and I'd be seriously interested in seeing how the accountants are reporting that on a settlement sheet.

    But back to the point: FSC, accessorial, detention, layover should all be 100% pass through. It's the owners money...but I fear we're speaking to stones here.
     
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  4. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    Glad to hear it. If I were making a good living at 6500 miles a month, I would still try to drive 3000+ miles a week to pad the retirement account.
     
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  5. DieselDrivinDaddy

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    I agree 100% that you should stockpile for the future.

    I still contribute to my IRA whether I run 1000 miles or 10000 per month. Every little contribution adds up in the long run.

    My business model is simple.. run more when the rates are high, and park when they’re low. If I don’t average $2.25 per mile on my total miles including deadhead, I don’t run. That’s .20cpm less than my rolling average for the past 12 months but that’s my minimum.

    I spend less in maintenance and repairs by running less miles. I also have no truck or trailer payment, no mortgage and no extravagant bills. My truck insurance is my highest fixed expense at $1000 per month.

    The main thing for any business is keeping your operating costs in check. The next is knowing when you’re spending too much and getting that number under control.

    I think you have a good handle on what you’re doing, I just have no desire to drive that many miles. I spend more time with my wife and kids than with my truck and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
     
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  6. spyder7723

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    He said 19 cpm fsc. That is actually rather low. My last load was @37 cpm. Line item charge. There was an additional line item charge for an extra stop. Everything on my settlements are line item charges. As for the owner should get 100% of everything, i disagree on one instance: If the carier charges a percentage for use of their trailer i can see an arguement they are entitled to that % of detention and layover cause those are equipment utilisation charges.
     
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  7. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    First Load Starting date: 1/10/2019
    Data as of 03/04, pay date 03/08

    Total of all miles driven, loaded, deadhead, off duty: 23,279

    Total of all mileage income: 23,961
    Total of all FSC income: 5,813.3
    Total of all other income (NOT reimbursements): 161.74
    Total of all income: 29,936.04

    Total Fuel Costs: 9349.12

    Fuel cost per mile driven, all miles: 40.1 cpm
    Fuel cost percentage of all income : 31.2 %

    Now. Other information.

    Tractor + 200k warrantee after 500k miles. Payment 422.03 per week
    License Fees: 44.00 per week

    Insurances (only me, no dependents):
    Health 135.00 per week.
    Life 14.00 per month.
    Dental 18.24 per month.
    Vision 6.36 per month.
    Critical care 16.40 per month
    Workman Comp 180.00 per month

    Truck Insurances
    Collision 160.00 per month
    Bobtail 36.00 per month
    Cargo 15.00 per month

    Peoplenet costs 40.00 per month for lease + insurance

    Accounting Company 93.12 per month.

    Performance bond $50 per week until $1000 is stored.

    Maint account takes .15 cpm for all paid miles.
    Current maint balance: 3,375.38.
    Maint account can be used only for maint, or paying off the truck early. I will not touch it unless necessary.

    Total Maint expenses on truck so far, including several items of Crete deferred maintenance: a bit less than 4000.00.
    An additional @ 1000.00 or so in direct purchase expenses. Scale tickets, antigel, wiper fluid, tools, and random truck stuff.

    My available assets at beginning, after down payment: @20k

    My available assets now: 22k

    My tax acount has 4k set aside in it, and is NOT included in available assets.


    I will also mention that I fuel and try to work in all trailer services exclusively at Loves. As a diamond member, I never pay for a shower. I get at least one, sometimes two or three free soft drink or coffee refills per day. I get 4 cents per gallon of all fuel and DEF purchased, including reefer fuel which I do not actually pay for. Every now and then they pay me extra points for stuff I was buying anyway, like antigel.

    So, my rewards income from Loves is @ 4.00 per day for fuel, plus 2.00 or so per day from free drinks. I do not know how much showers cost these days, as it's been a long time since I paid for one. I generally take one every other day. Getting trailer service work done also gets me points for stuff I do not pay for, which is nice. The Loves rewards are not terribly exciting on a daily basis, but over the long term they add up nicely.

    Every single thing I do (other than fuel, trailer repairs, and lumper fees) is paid with a credit card that has 1% cash back on all purchases. This includes all of my truck's service work. I pay the card off several times a week to maintain 0 balance. No annual fee. Again, it's not very impressive to get $22 dollars back when I paid $2200 for truck repairs, but that's two day's food for free when I buy three subs at a Subway.


    I will obviously have a better idea of where I stand after my first quarterly estimated tax gets worked up by the accounting company. Yes I am happy to pay an accounting company 93 dollars a month, for now. They automatically pull my settlement data from Crete/Shaffer, and all I have to do is send them emails with images of my expense receipts by the 10th of each month.

    It will be amusing to see some of the responses to this, I think. Hopefully some of the other responses will be insightful.
     
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  8. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    Do you get workman comp from Crete? It's very cheap. How was that amount calculated?
     
  9. Scooter Jones

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    I just ran your numbers through my spreadsheet using a 2 month average as follows:

    $29,936.04 Revenue ($14,968.02 monthly average)
    23,279 All miles (11,639.5 monthly average)
    $1.29 revenue per all miles

    $4,712.48 Fixed costs ($2,356.24 monthly average) *I added $45 for cell phone.
    $13,840.97 Variable costs ($6,920.49 monthly average)
    $1,550.00 Personal ins/w.comp ($775.00 monthly average)
    $20,103.45 Fixed & Variable without payroll ($10,051.72 monthly average)

    $9,832.59 is what's leftover for 2 months ($4,916.29 monthly average)

    $0.42 a mile is what's leftover to pay yourself a wage without factoring a couple of other line items that really should be added to your actual cost of operation but I left them out for mercy sake ;-)

    From a personal standpoint, all that stuff about rewards points, 1% cashback on your credit card, etc., should just be thrown out the window, it really has no relevance in what your real costs of operations are.
     
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  10. Midwest Trucker

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    If anything running like this will teach you to run as efficient as possible. I started in 2008 and I remember in 2009 it got to where I didn’t pay myself for a couple months to scrape by. Overall, looking back it made my business much stronger.

    If you are down to figuring reward points at loves then that’s getting down to the nitty gritty. lol I truly do hope that you have a good learning experience and then move onto better opportunity while your still operational.

    Good job breaking everything down. Good luck into next few months.
     
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