Truck idle and using the air brakes

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by paccarmike, Jun 4, 2021.

  1. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    If the idle cutoff is outside temp dependent just disconnect the temp sensor. On the older style freightliner the sensor was in the driver side mirror housing. Adjust the mirror all the way up and the is enough room to slide a thin screwdriver or blade to release the clip on the sensor wiring. Easy enough to clip it back in too if the truck has to go into the shop.
     
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  3. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    I have a 2016 Freightliner with opti idle. It keeps me comfy just fine.

    In my truck there are two temp sensors. One external sensor and one sleeper sensor. Opti idle monitors both. If the external temp sensor detects -20F, opti idle will not allow the truck to turn off (the external temp sensor always reads higher temp than reality though. Otherwise, the opti idle system only cares about the sleeper temperature.

    Do you have one controller for both heat and air, or two digital numeric controllers. If yours is like mine, I might be able to help you set it up.
     
  4. Cowboyrich

    Cowboyrich Heavy Load Member

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    Code says disconnect within so many feet, if it's one you pull out a plug/fuses take it with you. No AC in an office gets pushed as more of an emergency than the meat cases not working in a grocery store.

    The no idle stupidity is something I can't believe OSHA hasn't gotten involved with.
     
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  5. paccarmike

    paccarmike Bobtail Member

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    Yea I've used the opti idle on my first truck which was 2019 but this one works with the controls in the cab not the sleeper. I think frieghtliner wired it wrong or something.
     
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  6. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

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    Tell them to kiss your ### and find a different gig, man! Why you guys tolerate this no idling lunacy is beyond me. If they don't think enough of their drivers to provide them with a comfortable living quarters, what else do they screw you over on?

    Piss on 'em dude. If you were pulling a reefer unit full of beer and the reefer unit went down, you think they'd tell the beer to just roll down the windows, or to only idle for 3 minutes off the main engine? Hell no!

    Why? Because the beer doesn't give a squat about their idle policy. It doesn't tolerate being mistreated so that POS company you drive for can save a few bucks. It DEMANDS to be taken care of properly! And, you'd be getting that unit to the repair facility faster than you could blink!

    Think about that dude! The POS outfit you run for thinks more of the beer, potatoes, toilet paper, canned corn, etc... than their drivers. You need to let them know YOU are the beer. YOU are the potatoes. YOU are the toilet paper. YOU are the canned corn. And, YOU are not going to tolerate being mistreated!

    BE THE BEER! BE THE POTATOES! BE THE TOILET PAPER! BE THE CANNED CORN! DEMAND TO BE TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY!

    Am I getting through to ya fella?
     
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  7. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Fill a sock with rice and experiment leaving it on the throttle pedal enough to keep the engine speed up a bit
     
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  8. Espressolane

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    Don't shut the power off, thats too easy to just turn back on.
    Pull the compressor fuse.
     
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  9. Brandt

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    Does your Opti idle have the electric a/c and heater system ? You might not be using it correctly. It's controlled from sleeper temperature and fan speed. You should have the orange light turn on in sleeper if it working.
     
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  10. Val_Caldera

    Val_Caldera Light Load Member

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    Gross Weight at 93,000??
    So that Load is 13,000 over supposed Gross of 80K?
    Are/Were You Permitted for said Weight?
    When Did Maximum Weight Go Up??

    Trailer Brakes usually work BEST just after Adjustment.
    EMPTY MAYBE. LOADED, NOT LIKELY.
    What Degree is a "slight decline"?

    paccarmike, Your Truck IS Your HOME When O.T.R.!!
    Do You "shut off" your Heat or A/C At Home Or In Your Vehicle(s) To "save power"?

    I, ONCE, drove a sleeper truck that idled for said "3 minutes" (didn't learn that until needed to park) and I was in Northern Jersey in December (in lower 30's with wind) of some latter 2000 year doing one of those 2 stop Mail runs (GSO-NJ-GSO).
    In a rest area on I-95 (below exit 13) I Set Trailer Brakes, Tractor Brakes open and put a small briefcase on throttle pedal which kicked up Tach to 800 and had a good sleep.
    NEVER AGAIN drove any similar "No Idling" set up.
    CHEERS!!
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

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    There is a huge variety of anti-idle setups in trucks. Some trucks simply will not idle more than the set time no matter what. Ive had trucks that will shut off waiting at traffic lights. I've had trucks where the only actione needed to idle was to set an increased RPM while parked. One truck would shut down regardless of brake valves unless RPM varied during the 3 minute countdown timer.

    There is a way to idle any truck, some simple and some would require a complicated mechanism. The anti-idle companies measure idle time and will not just accept idling a truck if they don't want it to idle, even if you overcome the anti-idle settings. Almost every modern truck is capable of reporting idle time, speeds, out of gear operations. If they don't report the data over cell networks the info is at least stored for download during truck service.

    There is winning the battle and there is losing the war.
     
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