How's Everyone Doing in LTL Right Now?

id quit my job right now for a four day work week.

 

That’s my criticism towards unions, and I get hated for it on Reddit all the time. If you’re part of a national union it should be the unions responsibility to find you work within their “network”. If YRC lays you off they should swing their weight around to get you a job at ABF, or a sysco that’s unionized within the teamsters.

That should also be done after all other avenues have been exhausted. Everyone should be getting 40hr not some dude starving at 25-30 hours and another guy getting 55.

 

start listening to Dave Ramsey and The Ramsey Show.

Go take Financial Peace University. It will change your life and how you view and handle money.

 

We have a position open at my gig (foodservce) and I asked another driver from a smaller company if he was interested in it. Would be a 2.50 a hour raise but he would go 4days a week. He let me know that wasn't enough hours and where gonna go broke only working 4 days.

 

Math is hard.

 

Yeah, that was my problem with the Union when Yellow went under. There was a point where everyone that cared about having a job could have just revolted and just tried to make things work for the sake of protecting that job. When the matter was brought up, the union said to hold the line and that the Teamsters will always stick together. Do not cede an inch. So then when things went belly up, the Teamsters pretended all of us didn't exist. "Soooo... Ya'll gonna rehome us at T-Force or something?".

Nope. We served our purpose and sank Yellow just like they wanted by holding the line, and now it was our time to go away. There were a few people that got another Teamster job, but that was just pure coincidence that their new employers were expanding and also hiring. This had nothing to do with the Teamsters. I saw the same noise online before things went sideways. You had the Facebook Commandos and the Reddit Rambos all cheering this on. But the "Let's shut this down"crowd sure got quiet when Yellow DID shut down and 30K of us were unemployed. And then they wonder why nobody trusts the Teamsters.

As I said a few days ago. If you are down to working 4 days a week, you absolutely need to thank your lucky stars that you are employed at a competent company. They are smart enough to understand that they would rather share the limited hours with everyone rather than to start kicking people out of the lifeboat and into the ocean of uncertanty and hope they come back when the economy picks up. If you can get hours and keep your benefits, you really are set. If you really are in a bind, consider selling back some vacation if that is an option.

 

Objection your Honor, assuming facts not in evidence.

Are we talking going from 5 eight hour days to 4 ten hour days? Or 5 x 10 to 4 x12? Sometimes working more hours at a lower rate results in a higher total income.

One of the big reasons I resisted going local for so long was the overall pay. Rate per hour was 'higher' for the local work, but they all meant working 2nd or 3rd shift to start and total hours was lower. Working 5.5 x 12 hour days OTR resulted in higher income and more functional TAH than working 5 x 10 days locally.

 

It is a wash. The first 40 hours at R&L you would make more than anywhere else cause they start at a higher rate than anwhere else. But after 45 hours with an OT company the pay actually starts to equal out. Once you get to about 50 hours you will gradually make more than at R&L That's when your benefits and how much you are paying for them will factor in. But even then it's fairly close a lot of times.

Most people that complain about each other's companies usually get into the weeds like incompetent management or DFCs inside the cab. At least that is how things were in my area.